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Pick and Roll should be an offense on bb

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219902.37 in reply to 219902.36
Date: 6/13/2012 9:04:28 AM
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From: Kukoc

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ACL injuries are mostly muscle fatigue injuries. Or problems for extremely explosive players (like Rose). You can still play ball without ACL-s, but you must have strong quartriceps muscles. I know one pro football player around here, that has neither. He has really strong muscles to balance it out though. Hell even Blair in the NBA is playing without ACL-s.
Obviously knee and ankle injuries are the most common in basketball. Followed with muscle sprains and back spasms. Facial injuries are next in line:)

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As a sidenote, in the old days russian doctors thought meniscus was not needed in a knee. It gave athletes too much problems. They removed meniscuses from russian junior and NT players:) In two player careers were over for most of them with cartillage damage.
If you have managed to live 8 years without ACL I would not go repair it any more. You have coped with the situation and surgery now would need unnecessary rehabilitation. 8 years ago I would have suggested reconstructing it using patella tendon.

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219902.41 in reply to 219902.39
Date: 6/13/2012 11:03:26 AM
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I'm techinically not suppose to respond in this thread, but maybe to you its ok?



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My brother has a torn ACL while we're still off-topic, his is just cause he's fat and out of shape since he was 12, tore when 15 (playing football). Has had 9 surgeries.

But, people that are actively working out and in great shape, are significantly less likely to tear ACL in basketball. Realistically LeBron and how he plays, should have torn, but he is a workhorse in the gym.

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219902.43 in reply to 219902.42
Date: 6/13/2012 1:53:24 PM
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This thread has completely gone offtopic. The suggestion has to do with pick n roll offense being added to BB, not how common injuries are or aren't and whether or not basketball is the most dangerous sport or if 270lbs is fat.

Just saying.

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On topic, I can see a lot of flaws of this being a set offense, rather than an incorporated play-set in a pre-existing tactic that happens periodically.

I would more rather see set coaching tactics for final 2 minutes that are different from previous 46.

with pick and roll as a set offensive tactic. What would determine it being successful or not? A player fighting through the screen, or getting caught up in it? If the player shoots it himself, or dishes to the guy that set the pick?

would 5'9 PGs playing out of position, or even not, set effective picks against 7'5 guys then have the ball passed to them to hit a 15 ft jumper? Would you question how a 6'1 sg passed past a 6'4 sg to a 5'9 guy that just picked him, and shook his 6'1 defender as well?

Would the players run into picks more with less experience? Would experience effect how many picks they run into period? etc. etc. etc.

And I stress again. High Post? Back-door? where is the pick and roll going?

Will it look like LeBron in Cleveland? Will it look like Lob city in LA? Will it look like Phil JAckson's Triangle?

From: Koperboy

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219902.46 in reply to 219902.39
Date: 6/14/2012 2:07:13 AM
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I am risking a lot ot not do the surgury but a few different circumstances have made me avoid it.


I torn my...hm, side ligaments, is this the same as ACL? Anyway, I had a surgery and I don't regret it at all, as the knee has been great since. Of course not as a healthy knee, but far away from troubles you are describing. The most I had was some swelling after games of basketball. I just had to watch some 200+ pounds guy didn't lean on me too much when boxing out. But running or other sports without sudden movements - no problem at all.

The doctors are an issue though...in Slovenia there are a lot of skiers, so a lot of doctors specialize in knee surgery and I've been operated by one of the best in Slovenia. But I've heard some stories of not so successful knee surgeries and they can really make your life worse, so I can understand your fear.

Last edited by Koperboy at 6/14/2012 2:08:55 AM

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