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285774.37 in reply to 285774.32
Date: 3/20/2017 12:06:03 PM
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I don't think 90% of users are fighting over kids to make sure they in end up in their country. Imagine the uk merged and scottish teams tank in all divisions, get all the hall of famers. Sounds fair for the english teams to just play perennial allstars for the seniors?
The draft will need to be adjusted of course, but that is a problem as a nation not individually. Each of you people in micronations individually can get MUCH better draftees on average than users who are in league with more human users.

So I agree that as a nation it's not good it would starve micronations of trainable players even more than now. Individually you are basically just get the same deal everyone else has.

Besides, in you example the Scots would get shafted because they would be the minority and there would be a much higher chance that some English manager tanks for picks. So I think you have that reversed.

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285774.38 in reply to 285774.36
Date: 3/20/2017 12:12:46 PM
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I don't know what he meant but I can tell you thins: every single team who has a couple of bots in his league can happily tank till the end of time and never get a boycott. That means all micronation teams, all teams in the lowest level of competition in their nation (which, as you can imagine, are the majority) are completely unaffected.

Bots are the extreme example of differences in strength between nations. Boycott punishes losing, as if losing (and winning games against bots) are an intelligent way to decide who's tanking and who's trying to win but comes up short. In reality the boycott rule ends up:
a) Punishing teams who are trying in very challenging leagues or people who do not manage to compete due to injuries
b) Not punishing tanking teams if they have some bot opponent (because it's almost impossible to lose to a bot)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/20/2017 12:13:43 PM

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285774.40 in reply to 285774.39
Date: 3/20/2017 1:21:04 PM
Les Galactics
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ahah no politic here please :)

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285774.41 in reply to 285774.36
Date: 3/20/2017 1:26:31 PM
Durham Wasps
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The boycott affects all teams which lose all the games in any third of a season. Tankers, who by definition have made a conscious decision to lose, will just make sure they win one game to avoid the boycott, as maximising income is the aim, and not losing.

The only people affected by the boycott are teams that aren't good enough to win a single game.

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285774.42 in reply to 285774.31
Date: 3/20/2017 2:25:01 PM
Totwart
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What's your assessment of the situation in respect of micronations? I'm sure you've discussed this among the staff. What do you expect from it? More teams? Or do you think the userbase in those nations will shrink as a direct result of the change, but you may recover users in the long term?

I think the possibility of some long standing users quitting is very real and in some cases 1 or 2 leaving is a very big deal. South Africa for example has 12 users (it's the largest African nation), say 3 people leave and it's -25%. In fact in total all African nations have 48 users altogether, it can shrink substantially if some people leave which will leave you with a D1 and bot filled D2s.

There lies the other problem all these teams are now competing in D1, what are you going to do in the first season after then merge? Create 4 D1s and then demote 36 teams?


What happens with our old users will depend on how they understand this change. They will have more competitive games each week and will have to face more good teams and play BB in a different way. We hope most of them will have a better experience, but it's clear that not the 100% will be happy with it. On the other hand, we have users from other micronations who would like to be merged as soon as possible and will have to wait.
My hope is that old users realize that there will be more fun for them with the new league and will stay, and that new users will find more fun playing against humans as well and we have a better retention rate there.
About the distribution, as the news say, the best ranked teams will be set in first division, the rest of them in the second one.

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285774.43 in reply to 285774.42
Date: 3/20/2017 4:17:03 PM
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Again not my place to suggest this, but honestly you'd be better off setting up 4 or 5 D1s for the first season. The difference in economy between d1 and d2 is pretty high and you may want to avoid people getting allocated to d2 based on their ranking changing right at the end of the season. It makes it very hard for them to plan ahead and also ranking is not a straightforward (it mostly depends on B3 perforrmance and the number of bots in each league....)

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285774.44 in reply to 285774.24
Date: 3/20/2017 5:08:23 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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No it wasn't the idea. I proposed it to get a more competitive tournament while keeping our domestic championship and identity. As too often those who shout loudest because in larger number have imposed their choice. Finally the decision was taken without the people most directly concerned having been heard..


I hear what you are saying...but I also believe this decision affects more than just teams in Africa. When you play in a small country and only have 1-5 active teams...you can coast by at the lowest possible salary without fear of relegating...maximize $$ more than bigger countries...and it gives a very significant advantage in acquiring players on the Transfer List. In bigger countries, it's the opposite...teams have to overspend to stay afloat, and significantly overspend if they want to compete for a Championship.

Personally, I hope this is just the start...I hope this trial works, and it leads to all micro-nations being merged to create more competitive environments so all leagues are dealing with the same issues and on the same playing field.

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285774.45 in reply to 285774.44
Date: 3/20/2017 5:19:19 PM
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I hope they can decide quickly on a simple (and I stress simple) change to help the U21/NTs in those nations, because the national teams do help keeping smaller BB communities together

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/20/2017 5:21:02 PM

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285774.46 in reply to 285774.43
Date: 3/20/2017 5:22:47 PM
Totwart
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Well, this was announced with an advance of two seasons
Economy will not be a problem for most of those teams, they are well prepared and won't suffer a lot.
Your suggestion won't be bad in a closed league, but I think for new teams entering during the season it will be a nightmare, and the same for teams just created. And for sure more difficult to code which would be a problem as well.
Ranking is for sure not 100% accurate, but the better option. Another one would be that all teams start in 2nd division, but I'm not sure africa teams would prefer it.

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