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381.361 in reply to 381.360
Date: 2/16/2008 10:47:06 AM
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Trained Shot blocking at C/PF after team passing. Level 10 trainer.

21 yr old to RESPECTABLE
19 yr old to STRONG
19 yr old to MEDIOCRE


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381.362 in reply to 381.361
Date: 2/16/2008 11:17:37 AM
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The point of this thread is to determine how long it takes for a player to pop a level, so you really need two pops to generate any meaningful data.

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381.363 in reply to 381.362
Date: 2/16/2008 12:41:35 PM
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Sorry. Don't want to mess up your data. No more posts for me.

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381.364 in reply to 381.363
Date: 2/16/2008 10:02:16 PM
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I don't want to discourage you from posting. For instance, if you have two pops on a player, then it would be good to know how many trainings happened in between.

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381.365 in reply to 381.364
Date: 2/17/2008 11:24:54 AM
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I understood you the first time, too.

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381.366 in reply to 381.1
Date: 2/22/2008 8:31:51 AM
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Outside Shooting
SG:
Trains JS @ ?
Trains JR @ ?
Trains DV @ ?

PG/SG:
Trains JS @ ?
Trains JR @ ?
Trains DV @ ?

Team:
Trains JS @ ?
Trains JR @ ?
Trains DV @ ?


From BBCharles, "Driving and handling are very, very similar skills, and training either one will now also result in about 80% of training on the other."


Not surprisingly from the info above, Outside Shooting training also trains Handling to some degree. I had a pop this week.

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381.367 in reply to 381.350
Date: 2/22/2008 10:29:19 AM
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that seems pretty fast

training PF/C:

I just trained a 19yo in inside shot two weeks in a row (both weeks w/ 48+ mins), and didn't get a pop. This is with a 10 trainer too.

For the most part, they pop every two weeks, but sometimes its once every 3.

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381.368 in reply to 381.366
Date: 2/22/2008 10:29:28 AM
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Well, I've been training rebounding (C/PF) for 3 weeks in a row now (Level 9 trainer) and have had some good results:

3 players popped each week after training (all had 47+ min).Ages: 20,19,19
2 players popped twice in 3 weeks (all had 48+ min) Ages: 19,18
1 player popped in 3 weeks (25 min - POP, 8min, 0 min) Age: 19

I was surprised with 3 pops in 3 weeks, I doubt whether they would all pop again if I stick to rebounding again next week. I'll now switch to Inside defence for a few weeks and see how the training goes.




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381.370 in reply to 381.369
Date: 2/22/2008 5:00:49 PM
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I've been training JS for my guards over the past 3 weeks and here's all of the data i've gathered so far. The skill levels are in the number values instead of word values (respectable=7):

first 2 weeks: lvl 9 trainer, this week lvl 10

6'3" 19 YO PG-partial training 1st week, full training wk 2&3-JS pop: wk 1 & 3, JR pop wk 1, DV pop wk 2
JS–6 to 8 DV-6 to 7 JR–4 to 5

6'4" 24 YO SG-full training all 3 weeks-all pops wk 1
JS–6 to 7 DV-0 JR–7 to 8

6'4" 20 YO PG–full training all 3 weeks-all pops wk 2
JS–3 to 4 DV-6 to 7 JR–0

6'2" 23 YO SG-full training all 3 weeks-JS & JR pop 1st week, nothing wk 2, JS pop wk 3
JS–6 to 8 DV-0 JR–6 to 7

6'2", 19 YO SG-partial training all 3 weeks @ pg (wk 1: 29 min, wk 2: 30 min, wk 3: 32 min): pop during 2nd week
JS–4 to 5 DV-0 pops JR–0

6'5", 21 YO SG-no training 1st week, wk 2: 27 min, wk 3: 47 min), all pops most recent training
JS-7 to 8 JR-7 to 8 DV-0

Hope this helps shed some light on JS training for guards. As far as I can gather, the better skilled a player is in JS, the faster his skill increases (unless my 20 YO PG just had really low sublevels before i trained him). I might train for one more week and see what happens, or switch to pressure PG/SG and do some research there. Also, having a player play for more than 90 minutes will harm his stamina. Just so you know. Also, if anyone has an excel spreadsheet they use to do this sort of tracking, please send it to me (BBmail me first). I know this info is kind of messy but hopefully it has all the necessary information.

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381.371 in reply to 381.370
Date: 2/22/2008 5:22:19 PM
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the better skilled a player is in JS, the faster his skill increases

Not very likely. As a matter of fact, highly unlikely.

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