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well, i'm just speaking about the italian situation, i know only that situation. but, if the world cup champion country think what i wrote, i believe something is going wrong, don't you?

No.

Winning the World Championships doesn't make that countries' users opinions more important.

My tone here is only bright and responsive, spicy even. Read it as such.

If their solution isn't the best possible, than who's is? Did anyone write up a five paragraph order on how to improve the site and mitigate issues? Than isn't BBs the best possible? Theoretically yes, there could be a better one, but it doesn't exist in our known BB world does it?


We represent a microcosm of mankind, especially so, if you factor the cultural diversity that exists here. Man has historically exploited any resource, recess, advantage and species he came into contact with, in one way or another, directly or indirectly. We here at BB have done what we have always done, found inherit flaws and used them to our advantage. Now, some flaws are dissipating and man does not like losing his advantage does he?

I defend them fully, because they took our suggestions and their knowledge and evolved the game before it was too late. They will never make a perfect patch. There will never be an immaculate version. That is not possible. So again, adapt and overcome.

Well, because it is a game and when people begin claiming that it is stupid or unacceptable or that there is something wrong with it, it leads me to believe that perhaps their perspective has gotten a bit out of whack.

His alternate suggestion was that "something is wrong with the game." ummm...

If you interpreted my post to mean that I believe people should not be allowed to have opinions then you are a very poor interpreter. It is in no way my position. My position is small forward.

The post of yours I responded to was a general "it's a game people" post, and I just don't see how that response is constructive in any way.

The point of teling people it's just a game is what exactly? To encourage expression? There is no point to it at all except as a means of discouraging discussion, so how does that correspond with your willing acceptance of the opinions of others, or my interpretation of your post?

We agree it is a game, and we agree that it is fun, and we even agree that adjustments will have to be made, but you cannot suddenly assume that people have lost perspective just because they do not agree with specific changes being made.

they took our suggestions and their knowledge and evolved the game before it was too late

No they didn't. They saw things were getting out of control and made a rushed move to try and bring things back to normal.

Now, some flaws are dissipating and man does not like losing his advantage does he?

You obviously don't understand what anyone here has been saying at all. The people who benefitted the most from the old system will actually become even stronger now. The top div I teams will still pull in a lot of money but the teams that are in the bottom half of the top divisoins will have no way to compete with them.

Did anyone write up a five paragraph order on how to improve the site and mitigate issues? Than isn't BBs the best possible? Theoretically yes, there could be a better one, but it doesn't exist in our known BB world does it?

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you claiming that unless someone writes up a detailed outline then no suggestion has been made?

You sound like some sort of half baked philosophy student who doesn't quite get it. I wonder if you even realize how ridiculous it is to say that no suggestions exist because none have been formally set out.

If we don't talk about things we can never get the best solution.

If their solution isn't the best possible, than who's is? Did anyone write up a five paragraph order on how to improve the site and mitigate issues? Than isn't BBs the best possible? Theoretically yes, there could be a better one, but it doesn't exist in our known BB world does it?

No-one wrote 5 paragraphs, because it really takes 5 lines to suggest an alternative that's at least arguably viable. You must have missed my 20 posts.

It's real easy. Introduce the 'tax' as an arena maintenance cost. If you feel that DIII and lower have no excess income, don't implement maintenance there. But I am still waiting for a good reason why Tooroo should be treated the same as some poor punk with 7,500 arena who just promoted to DI, and was surprised with the news that in 5 days he'll lose 40% of his income, and will be compensated with extra attendance which his arena cannot absorb.

Yes, we must talk about them and that's what we are doing.

I never went to college. I joined the Marines.

How can you be so sure this will further widen the gap?

So they opened the site and said, "omg, things are waaay out of control, we need to change something now, before dinner!" Hardly.

It's probably a mixture of both our theories, and we'll disagree until azure hits our cheeks.

There's is the best.I haven't seen a better one, have you?. So until we get into season six, there's no point in arguing something that may not happen. Just go with the flow.

So they opened the site and said, "omg, things are waaay out of control, we need to change something now, before dinner!" Hardly.

You might be closer to the truth than you think.

speeding it up is one thing and can only probably be a short term cure for the situation because if they revert it back surely the late comers or newbies would probably struggle more than those who played early and have the speed training.

if its temporary i tell you youll make a big gap or a worm hole there, speed training can only come to an extent to the skill level of how much can be reach so it can be applied to all and all the the time.

dont you think its funny at times that a player who has atricious skills and given playing time and training on that skill with a level 10 would evcen at times take you 2-3 weeks on a 19-21 years old. i mean next level of atricious i think is awful . . . even in the state of awful you still have a hard time getting there.

either your trainer sucks or probably that player is really . . . . , as if awful can help a lot in your skills ( yeah i know its much better than atricious )

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are there new changes? i cant understand it anymore with all the fuzz brought, ( sorry im really lost )

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truthfully, with the changes taking in place and money is going to be harder to get, a lot of teams will take seriously the cup and the bb3 challenge.

but i think teams that can adjust surely and fast or probably dominate are still the well establish teams. because they already created a gap to the normal teams imagine they earn 10 million compare to the normal of how much?

even they try to buy 2-3 strong players that would still make them more easy to balance their team, geessshhhh . . . . and guess what probably . . . and i say probably they wouldnt have any problem paying his players.

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the control shouldnt be how would money come in to teams, but how is the money manage or dealt with in the managers pockets.



Last edited by Shoei at 8/10/2008 1:15:14 AM

You obviously don't understand what anyone here has been saying at all. The people who benefitted the most from the old system will actually become even stronger now. The top div I teams will still pull in a lot of money but the teams that are in the bottom half of the top divisoins will have no way to compete with them.

In about a week or 2, 3 I will be able to tell you if it is THAT bad for lower DI teams...