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It seems funny to me that all of you are arguing/complaining/whining about how the market and economy are unbalanced and that is unfair for newer players to reach the top when none of you seem to be in a lower division.

I just promoted from D.V to D.IV in USA and although my players are not as high salary as any of the other teams in my division, I am still able to stay in the middle of the league because I strategize my defense/offense as well as manage enthusiasm. My team salary is a little over 50k (which is not even one of your player's salaries) but I can still compete against teams that have between 70k and 150k salaries.

Seems to me that the market is doing alright since I can purchase veterans who are not as trainable for cheaper and use them to compete in my division.

I noticed that young trainees with high potential are being sold for too much and most of these youngsters will never reach their potential. This doesn't seem to be a problem with the economy but that the managers are placing too high a value on these players. It does not seem reasonable that these young trainees should be bought for so much money since in the real basketball market they are not sold for that much at all. I'm sure that once the discrepancy in young trainees selling for so much is addressed that the market will become much better for everyone since it will allow those in higher divisions to focus on addressing salary instead of using all their money for purchasing players. It should help the lower division teams by encouraging them to keep their better players for training instead of selling for a large amount of money

I want national markets for the players

Everyone else seems to do fine with global markets. Do you understand that everyone in your league have the same options as you. You are just an ignorant dumbo:)

You are the last user who can talk me about strategies,and competition in BB,what's the strategy of your team?

I can't tell you my strategies, you might copy them and actually make something of your team:) I train players for my team. I do not bother with players who are not capable of producing at my teams level. I will get to divI, when I am ready. Will you? Saka fuuuuul:)

You can't read only what you want,it's useless to talk if another people as you in this case doesn't want at least to listen....
good luck for the game,you will need a great amount of it going in this way

Also very important thing. In this forum speaking (mostly) highest divisions teams, those are getting much more cash from arena, TV contract and so on.. I'm speaking about I and II leagues.
Kukoc, as I understood from your posts, you like economy as it is now. Your league is, I could say, the same level as mine. Your team is not stronger than mine. You are paying less salaries to players than me. And You are getting more money than me. You have bigger arena. Your TV contract is bigger than mine (I guess). And so on... I know, you will tell me, why I'm still at my league? Because there always are better teams than mine in my league, there always were teams knocked out from II league to mine.. And those teams still were the best teams in my league. As I wanted to say, in different countries, in different leagues are different situations, but the things is that lower league teams are unable to get into first league (or sometimes, to second leagues) because lack of money incomes.

but he is competing with teams that have same "advantages" as he does. you are competing with teams that have the same "disadvantages" as you do. if you would increase income in your league everyone will get that increase, how is it going to change anything?

It does not matter how your team looks compared to mine, we are not competing with eachother. I have my own goals and Estonian managers might have different strategies than Lithuanian managers. I have always been in the lower part of salarys while making the most money. I am preparing myself for divI, whenever I go for the push and succeed I make sure I stay in divI. When I promote I might fail to stay up because of some unknown error in my calculation, but my goal still remains the same. Eventually I want to win Estonian divI. That's perhaps what you should also concentrate on the Lithuanian leagues (instead of trying to compete with Estonian leagues). Oh if you want to test your strenght against other Baltic country teams, get supporter and join BBBL.

Yeah, my point was, that no one speak about III or lower leagues, which are very different from each other. One III league is near II league, other III league is near IV league strength, but their money incomes are pretty same.

Yeah, my point was, that no one speak about III or lower leagues, which are very different from each other. One III league is near II league, other III league is near IV league strength, but their money incomes are pretty same.

There is no way for this to be true, given that leagues/teams with better player will have higher merchandising and TV contracts.

After a month break from forums I enjoy to be back to speak about the economy where there are thinks that should be changed.

-First someone said it before, staff salaries. The transfer list of the coachs is totally out of control, I did some mathematics calculations about for how much people is hiring new coachs(its the most affected) of a medium level(4-5) and people is paying high amounts of money with negative expectations. The fact is that now managers are changing their coach to dont lose more money, but its impossible to hire a new coach without losing money on short-medium-long term.

So i dont really think its good for teams of lower divisions to make such a big invest on coachs to dont lose more money, if they have to sell 1 player for buying a new coach.

It should be changed the staff system, for me i dont really cared about the new draft system(havent looked yet), when the staff system is on that low shape.

- About transfer list, what we can say... It has been bad managed and it will be bad managed unless someone with good perspective of the game decides to change it(BB staff), but i can understand that knowing Macroeconomy is hard.



Last edited by Marot at 7/20/2010 10:16:54 PM

Wow, reading this thread feels like I just read all five volumes of War and Peace!

Same story line too: everyone disagrees with each other, and the one with the biggest economy wins.

Keep the volumes coming, it's rather entertaining reading :-)

1. Why are you so against daytrading?

2. Why do you find it necessary to continually call people names? Putting a smiley-face after an insult doesn't mean that it isn't an insult. If you are an adult, you should stop insulting people you do not know.

Selling players is a key component of this game. There is no question about that. The market is undoubtedly global and Italians in the third division who are trying to improve their teams are at a disadvantage against Thai managers in the first division who are trying to improve their teams. That much is also obvious. The fact that all Italian third division are in roughly the same boat is a valid point, but only in a narrow view of the game itself. If team cannot improve do to cash flow inconsistencies on a global scale, ti makes it more difficult should they promote, and promotion is one of the main goals of the game.The merchandising and tv contract "fix" was an excellent idea, but personally I feel the amounts are too small to actually make a difference. Well, they were the last two seasons. With the fall of prices on the transfer list, perhaps these amounts are becoming more meaningful. To me it does not matter if the top players (and by top I do not mean highest salaried) sell for 4 million or 12 million, as long as the costs are proportionate to the money in the game. I think the BB's are doing a good job of working towards this.