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From: CrazyEye

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173944.37 in reply to 173944.31
Date: 2/22/2011 3:43:05 AM
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Makedonija 103 Slovenija 90
I don't know how Makdonija is making this much noise

I do, but I'm not gonna tell you ;)



Good game from your team again, i wouldn't expect that your team lead at half time against french with same effort. And maybe you couuld tell us your secret, after the tournament ;)

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173944.38 in reply to 173944.11
Date: 2/22/2011 4:33:43 AM
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II.2
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Second Team:
Jirkov
The reason of why Slovenia has lost could be easier: (26712.393). Looks like their coach just accidentially has chosen wrong tactics.

I was on vacation, so I have found this thread just now. Their coach accidentally picked 2-3 zone instead of 3-2 zone. But with his selected player for SF (quite low OD) 3-2 zone could have worked even worse than 2-3 zone.

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173944.39 in reply to 173944.7
Date: 2/22/2011 4:47:33 AM
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II.2
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Second Team:
Jirkov
I think the Czech team really lack in the primary skills,so they aren't a top level Nt team;they win against the medium level team because with similar primary skills they have better secondaries because of the philosophy that czezh coach uses also for his club team,but they haven't any chance to make some big surprise,because the top teams have both primary and secondary skills to defeat them

You missed some point. We are still on half way, our team is not ready for big thinks at the moment, but can be in future (I don't know how many seasons it takes). My philosophy is to train primaries for some level (especially for U21 purpose) then train a lot of secondaries and at the end train primaries to final level. And I think difference between our primaries and rest of the world is not so big as you think. Our salaries are lower mainly because of shotblocking and jump range which I don't consider as a primaries.
As you can see on last match against Germany (13535) we are able to play equal match with strong team (6 points difference 14 seconds to go) on equal attitude (and Germany had probably little bit higher enthusiasm because of one more TIE comparing to our team). I consider Germany as a strong team even if they don't have impressive result last 2 seasons. We lost mainly because of fouls, rebounds (boost for Germany in offensive rebounds due to Look Inside) and probably little bit lower enthusiasm.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 2/22/2011 4:48:37 AM

From: dimac

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173944.40 in reply to 173944.37
Date: 2/22/2011 5:32:20 AM
The Black Ice
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dragonfly18
For sure, we have a deal

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173944.41 in reply to 173944.36
Date: 2/22/2011 7:21:33 AM
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Thanks a lot BUG, I lost Italia game because of you..

What happened?

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173944.42 in reply to 173944.39
Date: 2/22/2011 7:28:28 AM
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I was talking about this season tournament,where I see Czech team have very few chances to make an upset.
The best teams don't consider shotblocking a primary skill exactly as you;jump range instead is an important skill for outside shooting efficiency
The weak point of your philosophy,in my opinion,is that you need much more time than the other nations to have competitive players at top level,so I don't know if you can reach a sufficient number of top level players all together to try to defeat the top team(when one player became really competitive,the previous players became yet older)

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173944.44 in reply to 173944.43
Date: 2/22/2011 7:45:15 AM
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My defence tactic was 3-2 zone but I played MtM..

I understand your anger,especially seeing Quattrucci numbers in the game

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173944.45 in reply to 173944.42
Date: 2/22/2011 7:54:22 AM
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II.2
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Jirkov
Yes, our chances this season are not big, but it wasn't our goal this season to make great success even if last season we made quite a good run in Consolation Tournament. But group with France and Germany is very tough and our chance to go to next stage were about 20% from the begining and TIE-CT lost to Cyprus got us to even bigger troubles.
I don't think you find a week point. Players can play on NT very long, skills starts dropping at 33 (maybe slightly at 32), I think best players can play on NT up to his age of 35. If you look at our roster the oldest player is 28 (still training – last season 4 pops, we will see how many this season) and second one 26. Our NT is still quite young. To have about 20 great players you need average of 2 in every year starting from age 25 to 35.
The problem of our NT is somewhere else but don’t have direct correlation to my philosophy. We have very few well trained players with 10 or 10+ potential and it looks like potential 9 could be problem in near future for top level of NT’s. And second problem is that we don’t have enough managers that are ready to train these players for our NT, second part of my philosophy is Czech NT for players only from czech teams (at the moment all players from our roster play in czech teams, except from 18 yo, but there are some players near NT in foreign teams).

From: Marot

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173944.46 in reply to 173944.45
Date: 2/22/2011 8:01:15 AM
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Push the ball is a weak tactic to achieve something important on NT's.

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173944.47 in reply to 173944.45
Date: 2/22/2011 8:01:48 AM
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I don't think you find a week point. Players can play on NT very long, skills starts dropping at 33 (maybe slightly at 32), I think best players can play on NT up to his age of 35. If you look at our roster the oldest player is 28 (still training – last season 4 pops, we will see how many this season) and second one 26. Our NT is still quite young. To have about 20 great players you need average of 2 in every year starting from age 25 to 35.
The problem of our NT is somewhere else but don’t have direct correlation to my philosophy. We have very few well trained players with 10 or 10+ potential and it looks like potential 9 could be problem in near future for top level of NT’s. And second problem is that we don’t have enough managers that are ready to train these players for our NT, second part of my philosophy is Czech NT for players only from czech teams (at the moment all players from our roster play in czech teams, except from 18 yo, but there are some players near NT in foreign teams).

The point is that,at 32 years old,your player will have the same primary skills of the other national teams?
Because if you can't have higher primary skills before your player become older,you will however always have a disadvantage that I don't know if you can compensate.And another problem,is that you have to findo manager that want to train players forever,not stopping at 25-26 years old,and I don't know if you can find that

However,I wish you good luck,but I don't see your plan working as in your desires

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