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185559.37 in reply to 185559.36
Date: 5/27/2011 9:32:03 AM
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Hi,

i have one for u :-)

Weekly salary: $ 18 140
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 250900
Age: 23
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: prolific Handling: prominent
Driving: prolific Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: prolific Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: inept ↑
Stamina: proficient Free Throw: proficient

Experience: awful

..not the best guard in the world but he performing very well( his de sux :-)) in my eyes than i play LI and i put him on the SG spot..nearly every Inside Shot is a hit and he shows putbacks at least 1 every game

Last edited by WillFreeman at 5/27/2011 9:32:45 AM

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185559.39 in reply to 185559.38
Date: 5/29/2011 5:37:13 AM
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aight, thumps up :-)

that what i noticed too..if u check all tools u can see that every "B skill" weight around 30% for every position but 95% from all BB users dont care about that fact..for example the german BB Nt..we have one well rounded dude and 2 good but not even great types of "what most users call a BB Small Forward"..most of the guards and Forwards/Center are showing 1/2 or 3 as a skill..i dont think that BB have such players in mind as they prepared a online basketball simulation :-)

Cheers

Will

Last edited by WillFreeman at 5/29/2011 5:40:22 AM

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185559.40 in reply to 185559.1
Date: 5/29/2011 8:18:14 PM
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A cross between B and C. I assume IS is taken into account once the opportunity to score is created with DRV, so high DRV = higher % opportunity of scoring.

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185559.41 in reply to 185559.37
Date: 5/30/2011 12:04:57 AM
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hmm nice player! ill take him ha!

Ok so here is my two cents.
Ive got a PG who has Prolific(11) driving, and Pitiful(2) Inside Shot.
Ive also got a SG who has Prolific(11) driving and Respectable(7) Inside shot.

I dont raelly have much stats for you, but they both do seem to shoot a similar number of 3's with a similar percentage as well. They both also have comparable JS and JR.
I also play majority Inside focused offense. The PG is shooting 38% and the SG is shooting 45% for the season. I do find when im watching games, that i cringe when my PG is driving and shooting. Id rather he didnt. Id rather he pass, which he does do quite well also. but still. it does appear that his lack of Inside shot ability, does not deter him from driving and shooting.
So a player with good driving, will try to score layups. if his IS is lower, then obviously he wont succeed as much. fairly obvious.
Ive also got two SF's. They are very comparable with regards to offensive statistics. SF1 has driving - Proficient(9) whilst the other SF has driving of Respectable (7). Again, i dont have any stats on this, the SF1 does seem to really noticably try and get to the rim a lot more than SF2, who tends to shoot jumpers a bit more. They both have the same IS of Proficient, BUT SF2 has slightly better JS and JR.

Personally, if i was going to buy a player with anything above 8 driving, at any position, then in the future, im not going to waste my time with a player who also has really low IS. I think anything below probably, Mediocre, is a waste. IMO.

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185559.42 in reply to 185559.41
Date: 6/5/2011 8:56:27 PM
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There is a way to train DR and IS for Forwards. You could put the guards in as small forwards and in your scrimmage a power forward.
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...
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The driving will defiantly be trained more but it will nice to have that inside shot.
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This is directly from the forum if you are too lazy to go there:
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One on One
Guards:
Trains DV @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 3-4 weeks

Forwards:
Trains DV @ 1.8 weeks
Trains HN @ 2.3 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks
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I think one on one would be the best way to get an inside guard while also getting handling and jump shot to make him a nightmare for defenders.

From: yodabig

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185559.44 in reply to 185559.43
Date: 6/12/2011 8:45:08 PM
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I would not suggest spending time single position training a 6'0" guard in IS, a far more efficient way would be to train JS for forwards as he will need JS anyway and it trains IS fairly fast for a secondary skill. That should get you a couple of IS pops while you are pumping up the JS which you want anyway.

From: PoPe MF

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185559.46 in reply to 185559.11
Date: 6/15/2011 2:26:17 AM
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Yes

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185559.47 in reply to 185559.46
Date: 6/20/2011 1:13:17 PM
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I found this to be an interesting discussion topic. I thought I'd give it a try with a couple of my guys. Here are the results of the last 6 competitive games they've played.

Player 1 - 14-15 DR, 2 IS - 16-37 (43%) on layups, 29-88 (33%) overall.

Player 2 - 10-11 DR, 8 IS - 0-10 (0%) on layups, 45-131 (34%) overall.


So it seems pretty clear that high driving guards will take FAR more layups than low driving ones. 42% of Player 1's shots were layups, as opposed to just 7% of Player 2's shots. It also doesn't appear to matter how good their IS is for actually making the shot. Player 2 made exactly zero layups in 6 games. Interesting stuff.

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