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From: Tangosz

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Date: 5/3/2012 12:50:52 PM
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That's helpful, and now it's easier for me to picture your proposed system.

Overall I don't find your proposal preferable, but that's because we disagree on whether there's an important problem in the first place. I like the fact that the current gameshape system forces any particular team to prioritize league games, or cup games. You can focus on the league games, at the expense of the Cup, which forces you to forgo the extra enthusiasm and cup win revenue for a chance to get a high seeding in your league. Or you can choose the other approach, go for Cup money, glory, and extra enthusiasm, but likely ending up on the road in the league playoffs.

And yes, there will be some amount of luck involved in how the opponents are affected by possible tanked games. But that is random, and changes season to season. So it doesn't have the long term effect of giving undue advantages to the top teams, while penalizing weaker teams. That's balancing between giving well managed, but weaker teams a shot to compete, while not being totally random at the expense of better teams. That's something I think that I think BB does pretty well.

From: Shadamher

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Date: 5/3/2012 1:35:36 PM
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Im not gonna do a pini, i said my reasoning, i hope you agree with me, if not - I KILL YOU.... (:


From: Shadamher

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Date: 5/3/2012 2:14:47 PM
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yes, i understood you completely - but i dont want to do a pini and start writing repetitive long threads on the subject...

told my side once - that's enough for me

From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 5/3/2012 2:15:43 PM
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Im not saying you done a Pini im saying i feel a bit like Pini. I think this whole suggestion is made so that already good teams can be better. Hence competitiveness gets worse and not better as the suggestion seems to be about.


So where can we find out historical game shape data for large nations for a few seasons ago so that we may find one example and ride it like a horse until its game shape is awful?

;)

I think the idea of punishing bad game shape decisions for a longer period is valid, but I'm not sure I like being able to make up for it by taking an extra break one week. In the end, GS is easy enough to manage with depth - and if a team chooses not to have depth for financial purposes, this is the side effect of that.

From: TrinZ
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Date: 5/4/2012 8:20:36 AM
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Well, i guess most teams here just don't get many thrown games affecting their league unlike the situation in the Israeli main leagues...

Anyway- like Shadamher said- we stated our proposal - and that's as much as we can do.