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268063.37 in reply to 268063.33
Date: 3/11/2015 2:08:10 PM
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Did u not say 3-2 should not be able to stop li??

yes or no.?

My point is rather than make smart remarks and get the thread closed. lets talk on topic, 3-2 can stop LI, 2-3 can stop LI too. This depends on how you build it with your players, it work because I have seen it work on a NT level, also league games.

The Big difference is those are special kind of players most of the time, How do we get it to work on everyday players at all times or at least the majority. I just have answered that as well with "cookie cutter builds" same as 3-2 zone you need 2 good builds to make it work. For 2-3zone you need 3 good people to make it work.


That's what I said . I don't know what your saying at all and I don't know why someone is giving you a ball for ignoring the question once more. Your trying to retract your statement of before, nothing wrong with making this correction with you. Why are you offended?

That what learning new things about making corrections. Not act you or I know it all, because there a lot we need to know.

From: Mr. Glass

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Date: 3/11/2015 2:17:41 PM
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What offensive tactic did you play with it.?

I think the big's need some od as well. I think stopping the inside passing and scoring. leads to mid range shot in pockets. in the zone. Only 2 players can cover the pockets and that's pg/sg.

I think the center need everything in a defensive way.. I think that is the key. I think its a advanced level tactic.. you can just play it with jon doe and jim cook and think just because they are pumped with Id/sb it going to work. Every body need defensive stats.

2-3 starts at the top while 3-2 start at the bottom. This is why 3-2zones is having success.

I hope you understood what i just said.

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268063.40 in reply to 268063.39
Date: 3/11/2015 5:13:23 PM
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I had three bigs with OD 12-9-9 SF-PF-C. ID was 17 at all of them and SB was 17-18. OD on my guards was 18 and 19. With 16 and 15 PA. Tried it with different offenses. Fast medium and slow.

Sweet day in the morning! Now I see why it is so hard to talk with some people about how BB works for mid-level teams. It's not their fault, they're playing with players from a different planet from those on a mid-level team. The skills and the money they command in salaries or on the transfer market ... a completely different planet altogether.

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Date: 3/11/2015 8:19:01 PM
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You still need some people to offer help. If the people with no knowledge of the game, the people who just started and those who succeeded can't propose their help, there will be a shortage of help.

Yes, that is part of my point. I try to talk with administrators* of this site about some of the ways that the game is problematic for mid-level teams, but all they know is top level teams -- a different planet -- so sometimes good suggestions fall on deaf ears.

(*administrators ... I don't know how you are organized and it doesn't matter to the point I'm making.)

From: Mr. Glass

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268063.45 in reply to 268063.39
Date: 3/12/2015 5:00:31 PM
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this is great information Manon,

If it ok to ask what was the lowest amount point s 2~3zone allowed in fast to slow offenses.?

I would certaintly assume the slow pace games were lowly scored, if not tht woul be good thing to see.... Aso if its ok can you link the close match of 2-3 zone. I wnt to see if the games style match from what i have seen.

Thanks Manon





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268063.46 in reply to 268063.44
Date: 3/12/2015 5:30:34 PM
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I agree with that.

I think 2-3 is a good way to lose for right now. But I have seen some Nt manager using it and win with great results.. . I took the 3-2 way from Nt and it works when I minored the skills,. I think the same will said will be said for 2-3 zone after some time or get BB- MM to very minor tweak it.

If this way does not work, I hope some recommends a very minor tweak to it.

Thank you for the clear up

From: Phyr

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268063.47 in reply to 268063.44
Date: 3/15/2015 1:34:22 PM
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Since its a zone its not actually that good at preventing open looks anywhere on the floor.


3-2 is very good at shutting down outside shots and drives from the perimeter drives. Just as an FYI, unless the zone is a coaches' base defense, the zone is mostly used to take away a team's strength. There are things that you can do to exploit weak players like trap them or play off them, but its not really the main concern.

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