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273066.38 in reply to 273066.34
Date: 8/24/2015 6:53:01 AM
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by then my arena will be 10-12k, with max prices, it will make the same money as a 20k arena with lower prices
Mate, you better be able to build a couple of million cash just to dedicate to the arena as soon as you win your promotion then. With a 10k-12k arena what exactly are you planning to do in D1? Say your arena is going to be 8000-3500-500-25. Even assuming you set prices at 20-50-180-1300, that will net you $457,500. If your arena is 18k you should be really approaching $540,000. So those 6k extra seats will pay you over 1 million in a season. 6k expansion (4k bleachers and 2k LT) costs 2.2 million. Therefore in 1 season you'd make back half of the expansion cost

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273066.39 in reply to 273066.37
Date: 8/24/2015 8:50:07 AM
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but those small arenas are no excuse not to succeed, per your philosophy, a large arena is a complete waste of money...



i never said that. what i said is newer teams do not need large arenas during their initial seasons. i said that advising newcomers to right away expand their arenas to 15-20k, a process which cost millions and millions, is bad advice. new teams should build carefully.



Free advice, spending 1million for 76k a week 30 year olds when you have no plan or ability to promote...is not going to help you in the long run...



Not planning to promote does not exclude the fact I should avoid being demoted. I must remain competitive and since I was promoted to div II I have managed to finish 5th or better in my division, which is my goal for the next 2-3 seasons. I bought the top scorer of the league with 110 TSP wonderfully distributed for only 1kk, in this inflation times he was a bargain for what he is able to produce, the cost-benefit of having him for 76k/week is very high, he will stay in my roster for 2 seasons and then will be sold for not much less than I paid for him; my salaries are below average in my league and I get a very decent weekly surplus, allowing me to afford comfortably paying 76k/week for him to grant my team to stay in div II while I keep improving my trainees.


Granted that Utopia is full of smaller arenas, newer teams...but those small arenas are no excuse not to succeed,


utopia is different from other countries, you get mostly experienced players as rivals and, since there are very few bots, the cup only lasts 1-2 matches for beginner teams, which strongly impacts negatively their finances; beginner teams now get stuck in the IV division making very little money; in my second season in utopia I currently have the best record in my IV division, 5-0, and cannot grant a decent attendancy even with low prices and no defeats; it's tough now, it would be worse if i had spent my money expanding an arena which would be even more unused for the moment; of course if i get promoted and start getting more money for attracting a bigger crowd I would expand. for teams who started in utopia in season 28 things were much smoother to get promoted and thus avoiding major finantial constraints.



given your complete lack of progress building your arena

that's not true; i expand my arena constantly; i've expanded more than 10 times in those 4 seasons; i just don't expand carelessly. again: my 7k arena makes virtually the same money than many 15-20k arenas you find around.


I want to take note, carefully, of your expertise as a 'successful' new team.


yeah, please, you are cordially invited to keep taking notes on the development of my team. my previous team, who played in Brasil Div I for 10+ seasons, was Brasil cup champion, Brasil national runner up twice, B3 record of 5-3, was built over a slowly built 15k arena with full prices. let's see.

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273066.44 in reply to 273066.41
Date: 8/25/2015 5:24:27 PM
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but that would be so much better if you were able to act as if you are not the pinnacle of the creation.


That is classic! You are my new favorite person!!

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