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78242.371 in reply to 78242.1
Date: 11/19/2010 7:49:02 AM
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Passing
PG:
Trains PS @ 1-2 weeks
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?

PG/SG:
Trains PS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 wee

This week I trained Passing for PG/SG with 5 players getting 48+. Of those 5 players, two of them had 1 pop. One was in passing the other was in driving. So Passing for PG/SG also trains driving.

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78242.372 in reply to 78242.371
Date: 11/19/2010 9:49:55 AM
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Yes, it appears the post has been cut off in one of the edits.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 11/19/2010 9:50:09 AM

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78242.373 in reply to 78242.352
Date: 11/27/2010 5:45:26 PM
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I have a Lvl 5 guy and hes 17k all my staff are 18k> and its 2 lvl 5s and 1 lvl 4. so you just need to put more rescrtictions when getting staff lol

From: iwen
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Date: 11/27/2010 10:44:06 PM
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My 6'8" 23 year old PF has been consistently getting pops in OD every 3 weeks. Level 5 trainer..

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Date: 11/28/2010 2:36:21 PM
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My 5'9 point 19 year old point guard and 6'3 18 year old small forward have been getting OD pops about every 1.7 - 1.8 weeks through single position training with a level 4 trainer.

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Date: 12/4/2010 10:34:10 AM
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It clearly looks that height is much more influential than age here. At least the difference from 6'1 to 6'4 seems to slow down training way more than the age difference between 19 and 20.

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Date: 12/17/2010 9:04:08 AM
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some more OD data, this time for OD 2-position, data received from an anonymous user who trains smarter than I do ;-)
Trainer = level 5

A 19 6'2"
B 20 6'1"
C 20 6'4"
D 22 6'3"
E 22 6'0"
F 20 6'6"

wk1 wk2 wk3 wk4 wk5 wk6 wk7 wk8 wk9
A 48 47 48 46 48 48 48 48 48
B 48 48 48 47 48 46 48 48 48
C 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48
D 48 48 48 48 48 44 48 29 48
E x 43 43 41 36 48 45 x 40
F x 44 47 48 48 48 48 19 48

OD/2 OD/2 OD/2 OD/2 OD/2 OD/2 OD/2 OD/2 OD/2
A x O+I x x OD x x OD x
B OD x x OD x OD x x OD
C x OD x x OD x x x OD
D x OD x x x x OD x x
E . ID x x OD x x . x
F . x x OD x x ID x OD

Totals: 15 OD, 3 ID, 50-ish weeks of 48 minutes.
(notice: _ZERO_ pops in handling or driving)


This information (particularly the part in parentheses) would be a lot more helpful if we knew:
a) the levels of OD, HN, and DR of all players involved at the beginning of training, &
b) the potentials of the players

As it stands, all that is obvious is that if a player doesn't reach the magical 48 minutes, he isn't very likely to keep on pace with his peers that do. Edit: sorry, it also seems to imply that ID trains faster than HN & DR as a secondary of OD, at least as far as 2-position training is concerned.

(on an unrelated note, I wish these forums had an easy method of making tables so that this type of information was easier to share and read.)

Last edited by darykjozef at 12/17/2010 9:06:25 AM

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From: samuli
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78242.379 in reply to 78242.378
Date: 12/23/2010 12:37:52 PM
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Hi. Someone has maybe asked about this before but Im in a bit of hurry so i have not time to search it.
So, is it better to get for example 42 minutes 1-position train than 48min 2-positions train? I have three players with 41, 45 and 46 minutes as C this week and Im training C/PF. Is it better to change my training just for centers?

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78242.380 in reply to 78242.379
Date: 12/23/2010 12:50:01 PM
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yep its better. especially when you only have 3 trainees, so no need to use 2pozition training, 2pozition is 2x slower than 1pozition for the same skills.

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78242.381 in reply to 78242.380
Date: 12/23/2010 8:37:42 PM
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2pozition is 2x slower than 1pozition for the same skills.


It's not quite as simple as that. Single position training is obviously faster than 2 position training but it's certainly not twice as fast.

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