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Here is my problem it:

I have applauded A-Dub for his success, and the way he built, and has run his team. I have been cheering him in the B3....I have sent him a handful of BB-Mails congratulating him and complimenting his success. I have always laughed when some guys are critical for how others run their team, especially in instances where a team has a significantly higher payroll than everyone else. But there is nothing wrong or illegal about it...I have always teased and called this tactic Bullying, but it's fair and okay to do it.

However, when you go the Bully route and run with a sizeable payroll advantage over everyone else, and run a significantly negative weekly income/loss you face risks with that strategy.

In late June he sold a player for a crazy amount of money, and then spent all that money, and more to buy a new stud to make his team even more unstoppable. He did this without any foresight of the schedule and the fact that he a time coming where he would have back to back Financial updates without a home game. He had the money on hand to protect his team, but choose the risky strategy and spent it going further in the hole. So when it all comes to a head, how is rewarded? Guys bail him out. So he gets to bully everyone, play a risky strategy, and then faces no consequences.

Who pays the price?

Well, if he had to sell a core player this week, it might have opened the door for Eugene to pull an upset in the Cup on Thursday. If he was able to wait a week, it might have opened the door for High Point Heroes to pull an upset in the Cup Championship. That week or the week after, and it would have opened the door for Eugene to pull the upset in the Conference Finals or for High Point Heroes or Arizona to pull the upset in the League Finals.

Instead, despite his mistake, and because of the bailout...none of those teams stands a chance, and A-Dub's B3 dream stays alive, and he gets two more Gold trophies.

This affected more than just A-Dubs B3 run. His mistake opened the door to give others hope they could play for more than a Silver...but that hope and the open door was shut as quickly as it was opened.

The charmed life of A-Dub continues!

3. Promised to buy players back from other teams "to repay loans" after he enters his rebuild. This constitutes shifting BB money from one account to another.

I don't see where he did this. Are you inferring he did this in private with players?

Seriously? He didn't just offer to repay, he actually offered to re-acquire those specific players! So now he's offering to buy those very players back when they will be another year older, AND, have more ratings drops, lowering their value even more...so then he will be in violation of paying over fair market value as well.

His quote on the offsite forum is as follows before he edited it about 90 minutes ago:

"with next season being a rebuilding seasons i'd obviously have money to re-aquire these players and repay such loans"

3. Promised to buy players back from other teams "to repay loans" after he enters his rebuild. This constitutes shifting BB money from one account to another.

I don't see where he did this. Are you inferring he did this in private with players?

Come on man. He said it explicitly in his post. I have zoomed in on this section since you have seemed to miss it:

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Last edited by Dwight Coward at 7/30/2016 10:12:51 PM

I read that as "managers have contacted me, and I'd have the power to do this, but I'm posting this ad here to avoid that"

Now that I read it again I see your point. But he hasn't reacquired those players, so like I've said a bunch of times, best that we let the GM's deal with it.

But I'm out, this isn't my fight so I'll let the right people settle it.

Seriously? He didn't just offer to repay, he actually offered to re-acquire those specific players! So now he's offering to buy those very players back when they will be another year older, AND, have more ratings drops, lowering their value even more...so then he will be in violation of paying over fair market value as well.

His quote on the offsite forum is as follows before he edited it about 90 minutes ago:

"with next season being a rebuilding seasons i'd obviously have money to re-aquire these players and repay such loans"

Those specific players hold sentimental value to me. I am wanting to re-acquire them. Regarding the strength of my team (had I sold Isom), I've played with six players before and believe my team is strong enough to do it again. I would have played two players 48mins as I did when Simmons was injured and would still be a formidable opponent worthy the title.

best that we let the GM's deal with it.

Agreed.

Goodnight Folks, this is a bb-mail i received from someone... (to the person, no hard feelings at all sir, i believe we had our understanding and I removed your name)

> > > Funny, man! Are you trying to help out A-Dub or something?
> >
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> > the players are upgrades on my bench which i was planning to upgrade, (albeit not amazing but still better)
> >
> > i did see he needed cash, he didnt ask me to bid, and i've had no contact with him but why not? they do fit into my 10 man line up. And it doesnt hurt my finances really....
> >
> > that's basically my reasoning
> > Being completely honest here, I guess it could be interpreted as such though.
> >
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> Thanks for your nice message. It really wasn't any of my business--it just seemed a bit odd and a little too much money:-)...take care..../////

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Someone pm'd me, i won't say whom but this is basically my response above
Also, may I just add, those players I bought already had bids on them prior to mine, he was already set to bring in a large amount of cash.
Don't question A-Dub's integrity, I can assure you he did not ask myself to buy any of his players. I'm sure the GMs can see that there were no BB-mails, plus i havent been on the mibbit chat these past couple games (and i've only seen adub there once or twice before anyway). I'm sure frequent live game watchers can vouch for this.

I see players selling for ridiculous prices everyday anyway.

Anyway, goodnight all, take it easy on A-Dub, he hasn't done anything wrong. He couldn't force anyone to actually bid on his players and I don't think he's got much responsibility.

I guess that's up to the GMs to judge though



Last edited by BarcaSwag at 7/31/2016 12:35:57 AM

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3. Promised to buy players back from other teams "to repay loans" after he enters his rebuild. This constitutes shifting BB money from one account to another.

I don't see where he did this. Are you inferring he did this in private with players?

Seriously? He didn't just offer to repay, he actually offered to re-acquire those specific players! So now he's offering to buy those very players back when they will be another year older, AND, have more ratings drops, lowering their value even more...so then he will be in violation of paying over fair market value as well.

His quote on the offsite forum is as follows before he edited it about 90 minutes ago:

"with next season being a rebuilding seasons i'd obviously have money to re-aquire these players and repay such loans"

This is total bullcrap. I was never told he would pay me back or reaquire any player I purchased. A Dub and I have never contacted each other via BB Mail, via Offsite Forms or any other fashion. I don't care if someone doesn't like a purchase or whatever, but at least get the facts straight.

Secondly Jason, you are coming across pretty lame in all of this considering you and I discussed this via BB mail. You left me with the feeling you understood and were moving on. This clearly was not the case.

Third, everybody that's made it this far has made more money off a player than they should have at some point. Everyone of us have manipulated the market to help acquire wealth. It's a major reason most of us were able to build our teams up, we were smart enough to exploit the game at some point. I had an owner purchase one of my capped out trainees for 2.7 million once. I put up for and was hoping to receive 750k for him, it completely changed my financial situation. I am sure you all have similar stories. Now to point out and complain about another owner being fortunate a make a couple hundred k is weak and a bit douche baggy. Because you didnt benefit from it? So that one time the newbie bought your player for 600k when he was probably worth 250k you reported it to the GMs? Bullshit you did. Just stop all of you.

Last edited by Hoosier at 7/31/2016 2:09:05 AM

This is total bullcrap. I was never told he would pay me back or reaquire any player I purchased. A Dub and I have never contacted each other via BB Mail, via Offsite Forms or any other fashion. I don't care if someone doesn't like a purchase or whatever, but at least get the facts straight.

Secondly Jason, you are coming across pretty lame in all of this considering you and I discussed this via BB mail. You left with you understood and where moving on. This clearly was not the case.

1. I never said in any my forum posts that this was directed at you or any specific person. I never indicated that he had a BB exchange with anyone. I am not sure why you think I said that, go back and read what I said. In the USA Offsite forum, he very clearly made this offer to ANYONE who purchased his players. It's not bull crap in any way. My facts were 100% straight...The only thing I that I have said, that can be argued (that I have caught in review), is that technically it's not illegal to list players for more than their fair market value....but that said, when you list them over their market value, and then attempt to get people to buy them at that price or more, that is clearly going beyond what's okay.

2. My BB Mail exchange was with you, as an individual. Like I said in the bb mail, I am not mad at you, and we left it with each other that we were cool....That said, all of my comments came after Hassan's lengthy Post which ignited other responses, and I jumped in. Even though we left things good with each other in the BB mail, I never communicated to you that I was cool with how A-Dub handled this.

I am not sure where you are finding my lameness or crooked facts...but you might want to go back and review.