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Date: 12/30/2013 11:55:00 PM
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We may have, but as we like to say in the biz, "Never catch a falling knife"

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Date: 12/31/2013 7:10:01 AM
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I'll give away two supporter packages as soon as the app is availiable.*

* if I am still playing the game then.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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I'll give away two supporter packages as soon as the app is availiable.*

* if I am still playing the game then.


Plus 1 to you.


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Date: 12/31/2013 8:17:45 AM
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If they get an app I will spend $100- on google adds to promote it myself.

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Date: 12/31/2013 5:45:03 PM
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If they get an app I will spend $100- on google adds to promote it myself.



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Date: 1/1/2014 1:47:31 PM
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They should get rid of the 48 mins rule. Make it 40 mins , or over all minutes in weekly play.

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They should get rid of the 48 mins rule. Make it 40 mins , or over all minutes in weekly play.


I think the minutes played on other positions than the one needed for training should have some value. Like if you train IS for C and you man has played as a PF, those minutes should be worth like 80% of C minutes (less for positions less connected). That way you could train a guy "out of position" and still give him (full) training.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Tangosz

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Date: 1/2/2014 6:48:55 AM
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There's essentially a way to do that: 2 position training.

Just seems like you want that to be faster. But the pain of that trade-off between 1 and 2 position training is what makes that choice an interesting one from a strategic standpoint.

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Date: 1/2/2014 8:48:50 AM
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One position training goes hand in hand with givin up NT aspirations for your trainees. Thats pretty clear.

If you got a TOP SF trainee you have to play him out of position for like 50% of his career - thats pretty annoying and far from realistic. If you could play that lad on his "natural" position AND give him training as C/PF/SG/PG, the game would be a bit more interesting, as:

1) you could utilize your players with their full strenght
2) hide who is training which skills
3) give teams that sacrifice success for developing their talent (another form of blatant tanking) better chances

I will play my C/PF trainees as PGs for the rest of the season (50% because I have to, 50% because I want to), which goes hand in hand with giving up my chances of promotion (lost the finals last season, so my chances were pretty good). If I had the chance to play the guys close to their natural position I could compete AND train my young guys. Double the fun - instead I am just spending/wasting time to start another title run in one of the next seasons.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Tangosz

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Date: 1/2/2014 9:50:55 AM
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One position training ...run in one of the next seasons.


You've just given an excellent summary of the trade-offs, and nicely described how they make for interesting strategic decision-making. If things were "easier" there wouldn't be an interesting decision, and everyone would simply do it that way.

Of course, you could do many of the things you want in 1-3 (and your point about your C/PF trainees), but you would need to accept having only a single main trainee. In order to get 3 full trainees like you're talking, you have to main a very painful decision. But, that's not required. That's your choice. To get the biggest benefit (3 trainees at single position, with secondary skill training) you ened to give up the most. Why? Because those players are worth the most in terms of their performance.

I know about the pain of training top SFs, as I'm 6 seasons into one right now. But the pain of that process is balanced by the fact that you end up with a player that is not very common, and will be better than what the other teams-who didn't spend that time and effort-will have.


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