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Thats complete nonsense.

Farming is done to tranform virtual into real money - I have never seen any offer or whatsoever to receive a farmed player in exchange for real money.

Actually I was doing some of the money-making during my student days, and I absolutely had no interest whatsoever to WIN a game, but to sell virtual goods (and a top 10 overall account) for REAL money. Doesn´t work in BB, so I don´t exactly see your point Wolph. You´re pretty paranoid in some aspects.

Wolph still has some valid points. A lot of the teams training "exceptionally" from the start of creation, have a big oh s%¤# multi sign on their manager page:) I believe even many of the old teams training for the NT, have had their founding member quit and have some national watcher.
Weather or not the multiuser is creating a great player for the community to fairy bid on. Cheating is still cheating. If GM-s can't successfully monitor those creators/multis. Maybe there should be some kind of time limit on a player that can go to FA. Perhaps set the bar at 23 years. With roughly 52 weeks in a year, training from 18yo takes almost 1,5 years (5 seasons). Perhaps someone would be willing enough to train for that period (atleast he would not try to hold 10 accounts for every seasons prospects). If a player get's retired before that, even if he is on a national team, it's a career ending injury. Stop treating those NT-s and their players like puppies, many of them are here because of cheating anyway.
NB! people who do not care about their account and more commonly turn to cheating tend to have a lot of small markers you can notice them by. One of which is naming anything important without a capital letter at the start. Would you write your name without a capital letter? A lot of the seasoned cheaters tend to know all the little markers and often are very careful and hard to find.

I just spent a whole lot of time looking through a random country with over 1000 users. In the first 50 divisions (800 teams) the number of teams that had logged on in the last week is well over 70%, which shoots down your 30% real teams theory. In Thailand about 20 of the 39 "active users" are active. Also a far cry from 70% fakes. And I can almost guarantee that none of the bot teams were made nefariously. They are just people who don't speak English very well so didn't continue playing. While I am sure that teams are created illegally, I think the percentage is well under what you claim. I also think that with thousands of players on the TL, this market manipulation you speak of is negligible.


And, to Yellow Cake- to make an asinine statement that these things aren't being looked at by GMs because the GMs want to get good players from farm teams is really really lame.

And, to Yellow Cake- to make an asinine statement that these things aren't being looked at by GMs because the GMs want to get good players from farm teams is really really lame.

It seems someone had their coffee extra BITTER this morning....
First....A farm team and a team quitting, I really can't tell the difference but when the training is stuck on one position OD training and a PF/C is the only one sucking up those minutes, it's kind of fishy.
My point was this, you guys are players, too. You want to win. Are you going to do research on all the F/As...the answer is NO...there is no time to do this with the current staff size. So seeing you guys bid on these super beast, I have no problem with it, you guys(staff) want to win..Why not bid? But if you go back and look at my post, I didn't use the word FARM TEAM once...It is common practice to have players do 2 seasons of Guard stuff and then get sold to another lower div. team to get trained in the Big boy stuff. These teams are active and don't have more than one account. They are trying to make their NT better..No foul...I have even heard of someone in Japan having a PG built by a lower div. Spanish team...Wrong? I don't think so. Do some farmed F/As slip through the cracks..yes, but a lot less than what Wolph was saying.
F/As come out and everybody gets a crack at them...BBs, GM, my uncle who started playing last week, joe blow from where ever....But my point was that F/As are killing the training aspect of the game..Why by a decent player trained by manager X on Saturday when you can wait for the F/A storm on Tuesday-Thursday...F/A's should come out during the offseason...That is what my counter suggestion to wolph's idea was....and for you not to see that that was the point of my previous post was LAME..and instead to attack me..You even use the word Asinine...Not very GM friendly.
Maybe you forgot that this was a public forum..

Last edited by Yellow cake at 7/2/2011 6:26:09 PM

Maybe you forgot that this was a public forum..I even think that wolph was fined 50K for saying less.
Infact, I was banned from the forums for a month for saying less.

It is not allowed to talk about fines on the public forums.

Thanks.....Forgot about that....Went back and did the edit thing..

You know that in fact you´re talking to the one person here that runs every accout beside yours constantly switching between all the accounts so you don´t realize it´s only me in all different clothing all the time, do you?

Back to a question I kept asking over and over without ever getting an answer out of you:

Why don´t you simply propose players below age 22 cannot enter Free Agency? Wouldnt that pretty much solve all your problems?

Why don´t you simply propose players below age 22 cannot enter Free Agency? Wouldnt that pretty much solve all your problems?

I can answer that for you.. The NT beast would disappear...I see so many beast that get picked up and then the team goes bankrupt and then they go back into the bin so some other fool can pay their 500K salary until they go broke. and almost all NT player are over 22....so there is your answer.