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196687.38 in reply to 196687.20
Date: 9/21/2011 11:46:19 AM
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Mistake#1
Thinking that training is possilbe at your level in the game. This is not really your fault. One would hope this game is set to reward you for training your own players...that really only happens in small nations where they have the finances or established teams taht bought pre created players at around 22. Its just the way they set this game up.


This game has rewarded me for training my own players. I think your comment is ridiculous. It seems to me the most efficient and cost-effective way to improve your team in lower divisions is through training. We all realize you're frustrated with your personal training results; no reason to take that frustration out on the newbies.


Absofreakinglutely.

I always see people telling new players to get 2-3 players with high, high potential and one position train them, and saying that anything below allstar is worthless. Meanwhile, I've just happily chugged along two-position training with star potential guards for the almost two seasons now that I've been here, and just now am ready to switch to one position because I want to start transitioning to big men via a SF trainee.

It's definitely a different game in different countries, but in a country with five levels, you're darned right you can train to improve your team quite successfully and to make sure that you end up with players built to your specifications, rather than hoping that you can find someone that's not a JS donkey on the TL.

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196687.39 in reply to 196687.38
Date: 9/21/2011 2:07:00 PM
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Training in big countries is just as rewarding. Training a great SF might be a little bit tougher because you cant throw games to train off-position, but if you do a long term plan, train as a big a couple of seasons and then as a PG or the other way round you just dont need to train off position.

And training to get some fast cash with young guys that you can sell, and they will contribute meanwhile is huge. They will never be NT players, nor top league players, but they will do the job for someone.

Also, its not about training or vets, i think success is built on the right combination of both.

Also I think most IV and V managers overtrain. They gun for the U21 NT or making the 1M+ benefit splash. My opinion is that you sacrifice too much and end up with an team with big holes. maybe if you are good you can, but I think its easier to play modest, buy cheap, train cheap, rotate vets and invest in arena. 2ºnd full season and already promoted once and with a serious chance at doing so again.

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196687.40 in reply to 196687.38
Date: 9/21/2011 7:56:38 PM
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Every new US user should check out these two teams: (30851) and (30777).

Both users:

1. Bought young trainees with star or all star potential for dirt cheap, and are or have been two-position training these players.

2. Bought post players for low prices.

3. Put every spare penny into scouting and arena expansion.

4. Joined the US offsite forum.

5. Are undefeated in their leagues.

6. Have trained primarily OD, PA and 1v1.

Edit: I believe the second user does more 1 position training than 2 position.

Last edited by Arthur Monay at 9/21/2011 7:57:27 PM

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196687.42 in reply to 196687.41
Date: 9/21/2011 9:01:39 PM
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LOL the first guy paid WAY more than 25k for his trainees.


Please show me your Likert scale that equates "dirt cheap" to 25k.

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196687.44 in reply to 196687.43
Date: 9/21/2011 11:04:05 PM
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Of course your friend is bored. Carrying 160k in salary requires him to perform the tedious, tiresome, and decreasingly profitable task of day trading.

What am I looking at that is so impressive? The three teams have comparable arena sizes; however, your friend has been playing the game for twice as long. Each user is leading their league, but your friend's team is carrying over twice the salary to accomplish the exact same task.

Adding in some math,

Salaries: hrudey: ~90k, your friend: ~160k

160 - 90 = 70

Take that 70k, multiply it by 14 weeks and you get 980,000 in savings for a season.

Adding to all this, the age of your mentee's players ensures that not only will his players not get any better, their transfer value will decline each season they're on his team. The teams I've shown as examples improve with each passing week, and their players become more marketable as their skills progress.

Last edited by Arthur Monay at 9/21/2011 11:52:39 PM

From: GWgw

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196687.46 in reply to 196687.11
Date: 9/22/2011 10:45:40 AM
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Your team is going to go bankrupt very very soon.

From: Ashurri

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196687.47 in reply to 196687.46
Date: 9/22/2011 11:12:53 AM
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I think he already knows lol.... but I wonder what most managers would do if they've dugged a hole as big as he did... reroll? I mean, he's just in DV, maybe let the team go bot, read about the game in the meantime. Then once it's gone, make a new one? New teams, besides a nice starting capital, have that four weeks of 50ks don't they? He'll be wiser, got more in his pocket, and feel happier playing too. Right now I think most would just lose their heads...

From: Baller100

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196687.48 in reply to 196687.46
Date: 9/22/2011 11:53:49 AM
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i believe that my great financial skills will enable me to make it through this period not in bankrupcuy

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