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202255.38 in reply to 202255.36
Date: 2/1/2012 3:34:42 PM
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Ever since I´ve been watching professional sports overpaying for a player you REALLY want to have on your team was common sense. Do I hear "Juwan Howard"? There´s so many players out there even in the NBA who are paid WAY over their true value just because that denying it seems awkward.
By what percentage does he was overpaid comparing to a player with his stats? not close to what is going on here.

In addition, in the NBA there is a limit for each player (upon previous contract and other factors) on how much he can be paid.

Not to mention that trades (equal to "selling a player") much stand some check from the league and it must meet some rules regarding the content of the trade (to insure each team got something that is worth to what it gave).

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202255.39 in reply to 202255.38
Date: 2/1/2012 5:19:38 PM
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Huh? Where do you got that legend about "teams have to get something of value" in a trade regarding NBA? NBA never checks trades for "fairness" or "value" reasons (unless they own a team), they ONLY check if the numbers work. If one team gets screwed while dealing, NBA will never intervene.

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202255.40 in reply to 202255.39
Date: 2/1/2012 5:33:08 PM
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they ONLY check if the numbers work.
That really summarizes it all.
They check the players' value, not what they will give each team.
Exactly what should be done here - verify that the price is right (bound it between two close values), not that the player was the right one.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 2/1/2012 5:38:04 PM

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202255.41 in reply to 202255.40
Date: 2/1/2012 5:45:29 PM
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So Rashard Lewis is worth as much as Chris Paul and Blake Griffin combined? Samuel Dalembert has the same value as Derrick Rose? And Luis Scola is worth more than any of Blake Griffin, Delembert or Rose?

Come on Pini, even you have to understand that "Salary" is not the same as "Value" in the NBA. It´s not even the same in BB, and here Salary and Skill are much more connected than in your beloved NBA.

By the way: you failed to acknowledge that you were plainly wrong in your statement about NBA checking that every team receives something OF WORTH.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 2/1/2012 5:51:38 PM

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202255.42 in reply to 202255.31
Date: 2/1/2012 6:04:44 PM
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This has nothing to do with the trade suggestion. Thanks.

Edited by GM-Perpete

Apologies.

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202255.43 in reply to 202255.41
Date: 2/1/2012 6:14:11 PM
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I think the issue here is that in the NBA overpaying players DOES happen. However, none of the teams in the NBA or any league I'm aware of win from making 10 (or maybe 30) trades a season, and continue to do so every season.

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202255.44 in reply to 202255.43
Date: 2/1/2012 6:23:12 PM
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NBA is a closed market anyways. You have 450 Players in the NBA, while you have >450 k in BB. If there´s a bigger market of players available, and you are not satisfied with your team, it´s rather obvious that you try to improve.

Also, in NBA if you lose money big time you´re not going bankrupt. In the worst case, your team gets sold to someone, but the franchise goes on, so you don´t rely on earning money. If you lose money in BB your franchise will get ripped apart. So you HAVE to earn money. In addition, the NBA contract systems works with contract length (and spendings related to contract lengths). Doesn´t apply to BB (and I´ve never seen a proposal about THAT before - Pini, your turn).

-> The NBA system of trading is by no means compareable to what´s going on in BB. As been stated a gazillion times before by numerous people. So why bother jacking up all those NBA comparisons when talking about the BB trading system at all?

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202255.45 in reply to 202255.44
Date: 2/1/2012 6:56:40 PM
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NBA is a closed market anyways. You have 450 Players in the NBA, while you have >450 k in BB. If there´s a bigger market of players available, and you are not satisfied with your team, it´s rather obvious that you try to improve.

Also, in NBA if you lose money big time you´re not going bankrupt. In the worst case, your team gets sold to someone, but the franchise goes on, so you don´t rely on earning money. If you lose money in BB your franchise will get ripped apart. So you HAVE to earn money. In addition, the NBA contract systems works with contract length (and spendings related to contract lengths). Doesn´t apply to BB (and I´ve never seen a proposal about THAT before - Pini, your turn).

-> The NBA system of trading is by no means compareable to what´s going on in BB. As been stated a gazillion times before by numerous people. So why bother jacking up all those NBA comparisons when talking about the BB trading system at all?


I can't respond because my response discusses what's not meant to be discussed in this thread.

Peace out.

-Axis

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202255.46 in reply to 202255.33
Date: 2/2/2012 1:06:32 AM
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A sure thing is that they did NOT get hundreds of percentage above their market value.

If you see a clearly overpriced transfer, please report using the cheating report tool.

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202255.47 in reply to 202255.46
Date: 2/2/2012 4:08:59 PM
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A sure thing is that they did NOT get hundreds of percentage above their market value.

If you see a clearly overpriced transfer, please report using the cheating report tool.

So overpricing is forbidden!!!
Now you cannot go around it!
And that means that a limitation is required to insure that the prices players are bought are around their value - not way above and not way below!

Thanks for your support for limiting the pricing! :+) :+)

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202255.48 in reply to 202255.41
Date: 2/2/2012 4:24:29 PM
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So Rashard Lewis is worth as much as Chris Paul and Blake Griffin combined? Samuel Dalembert has the same value as Derrick Rose? And Luis Scola is worth more than any of Blake Griffin, Delembert or Rose?
The NBA limits players value upon the years they are playing etc.
This is done (like the Salary-cap law) to ensure that small-market teams could compete.
So I understand that you are supporting Salary-Cap.
Great!

Each of them is priced upon his value at that age, with a very small deviation.

By the way: you failed to acknowledge that you were plainly wrong in your statement about NBA checking that every team receives something OF WORTH.
It is a fact that they are checking.
Each deal needs to have all sides switching the same contracts' value.

It is better to know what you are writing about before actually writing...

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