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Pff...
Do you have a PF with 15/10 JS/JR? Nope.
Do you have a SF with 18/13 JS/JR? Nope.
Do you have a SG with 20/13 JS/JR? Nope.
But you have a PF/C with 17+ IS and still tell me Motion sux...
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Interestingly, you could say the exact same thing about my team. I've been running motion with a 15/7 JS/JR SF and a 17+ IS big and haven't had any problems.

Every NT have players like that (or better players), why do we see then 90% or more NT games LI - m2m?
Why every serious NT play LI-m2m?

Why don't you buy players like that and play Motion when it is good? Why do you play LI?

Be serious, we all play it. LookinsideBeater.

1) In this GE its the best tactic.
2) 2-3 zone doesn't work.
3) The new changes with Blocking show us nothing new, its still the same.

Regards

First of all, your assumption is way off. Not every NT has players like that. Before this GE change, LI was dominant so there was no demand for these sort of players, so no one trained them. Second of all, your facts are mistaken too--not every "serious NT" plays LI, unless you consider Ceska a joke, in which case you're the one we should all be laughing at.

1) In the previous GE it was the best tactic, and all the players in the market today were trained to fit the previous GE.
2) 2-3 zone didn't work, maybe it will work better once the right players are trained for it.
3) We aren't seeing anything new because the right players aren't trained to take advantage of the new changes with blocking.

I hope you will be the new king of BB, win the B3 10 times in a row with Motion, with good trained players for 2-3 zone, may God bless you.

About Ceska, "90% or more" I said, its useful sometimes to read a post before answering.

And yea, I talk with arguments, not with assumptions.

I hope you will be the new king of BB, win the B3 10 times in a row with Motion, with good trained players for 2-3 zone, may God bless you.

Lose the sarcastic snobbery, it doesn't become you well.

its useful sometimes to read a post before answering.

Actually, I read your post, even if you didn't. You said 90% more of GAMES are LI

why do we see then 90% or more NT games LI - m2m?

, but you said every serious TEAM plays LI.

Why every serious NT play LI-m2m?

Read your own post, for crying out loud.

And yea, I talk with arguments, not with assumptions.

Actually no, you talk with assumptions. Can you prove this statement?

Every NT have players like that (or better players)

If you can't prove it, then it's an assumption, and a very untrue one I might add. (I can prove that is an untrue assumption since I know the skills of the USA NT and I know that while we're a decently strong NT with a fairly big and fairly active userbase that's been encouraging the development of multiskilled players for a while now, we do not have 15/10 JS/JR PFs sitting around waiting to be called up). You can BB-mail me your apology for your condescending and erroneous post whenever you're up to it, if you don't feel brave enough to publicly retract your words on the forums here.

You are funny, you play this game 1 season and you have a lot of things to learn here.
Btw I make a post to another user (serious one), I'm not sure why you are answering to me when I didn't ask you, but its OK.

You know the skills of NT USA in your second season playing this game, you are the king man! You're awesome!
I'm just a man who lead my NT 10 seasons, who am I to tell you something about the NT-s. You play since season 23 and I since season 3, who am I to tell you something about tactic, GE and etc. Sry mate, it is my bad, you are right, you are the next American Idol.

Good luck, and don't forget, never play LI.

Last edited by LA-King_Leonidas at 7/28/2013 5:26:04 PM

King has right :)
You must learn a lot to be next King :)

I can prove that many NT has better plaers than You have w wrote. I have/had biggest base off NT players.

LI is the best because there are players to play this tactic or LP maybe PtB not outside ones.

cheers

Like I said, sarcasm doesn't become you. But upon re-reading my post, I was similarly condescending, so I apologize for that. Still, please knock it off.

This is a new team, but is not my first time playing by any means. I formerly was banned for multi-accounting (no money transfers or other shady business involved, which is how I was able to sustain 20+ teams for between 8-13 seasons). While this was against the rules, I did not violate the spirit of the game as I saw it (keeping the game fair for everyone by avoiding tanking/transferring money, etc.), and managing such a sizeable number of teams at decently high levels (although I admit I have never been beyond D.III) gave me experience with many different tactics and training players of almost every conceivable build. While I have reformed (in part because I do not have time to burn on this site anymore), my earlier days have given me a much broader experience than almost any other manager and has made me as knowledgeable as most people in this game. And of course I did get involved with the NT then and still am somewhat distantly involved with the USA offsite/NT community with my current team.

As you say, you led your NT for 10 seasons. That gives you knowledge of your own NT's skills, but doesn't make you any more knowledgeable about the skills of every other opponent. I'm telling you the US does not have JR-heavy PFs (10+), and I would be surprised if your nation had any either. I would be more than happy to be proven wrong on that point.

I know that many national teams have better players, thank you very much. Poland and Ceska have done excellent jobs of developing multi-skilled big men, as has China (although there is much suspicion about farm teams in their case). Although, even they don't have super-high JR on PF/C, am I wrong? I've seen very high JS/OD/HA/DR/PA but never super high JR, which is what I was saying to King who was insisting that many NTs had such players (PFs with 10+ JR).

king is very funny.. but truth ful