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From: GM-Dyd
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255435.38 in reply to 255435.36
Date: 3/4/2014 10:07:41 AM
Sin City inFamous
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As for offering you for developping, this is another topic altogether. Marin answered to it. Offering to do something for free doesn't mean the offer is good. You have to admit that you would not give your spare keys to anyone offering to clean your house/appartment for free just because they offer it. It's up to the BBs to decide that, but their thinking is logical.


oh, surely. It's my, personal, doubt in fact. I know enough about Marin first issue, and i understand it. But i expect at least a little test. You can evaluate offer, having more feedback. And also answer, despite all, "no, you're too stupid/you've not enough skills for being a BB-Developer/helper".
IMO (and only IMO) a sentence where you asked for money and, at the same time, you refuse to test free options is a lack of consistency.
But ok. Closed the Off Topic situation, i've my answer, Marin consideration and then it become a private solution.


Second team will be 10$ a year, not one unique payment. It doesn't seem clear in what you say.


you're right. It seems different at my eyes this morning, so, probably i keep in mind this different info. But the difference still remains. Supporter is 4 times 2nd team, but 2nd team is still "somewhat exclusively", and supporter has his "sop" in free package for teams having it.


Another issue. No rules if i don't renew the 2nd team package? i can't read anything in the newspost.


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255435.40 in reply to 255435.39
Date: 3/4/2014 10:24:13 AM
Sin City inFamous
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Another issue. No rules if i don't renew the 2nd team package? i can't read anything in the newspost.


Botification.



day after the package end or after "your team" days?

From: GM-hrudey

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255435.42 in reply to 255435.33
Date: 3/4/2014 10:35:02 AM
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Come on, guys, this utpia idea is really bad.. Why do we need a fictional country?


What if they call it Mark Cuban's Invite Only Private Island for Elite Basketball Managers and Players?

It's a name. Just pretend that the citizens of whatever country they decide to use to represent it on the map got all idealistic and decided to call their country that - just like we don't get in a tizzy that what we in the US refer to as "Germany" is Deutschland or what we call Holland or the Netherlands or that wacky place the Dutch call home is "Nederland".

From: Timbo4

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255435.43 in reply to 255435.32
Date: 3/4/2014 10:36:23 AM
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In the event that more than 1,024 teams sign up for the 2nd team, would the next users go into DV? I'm not sure if more than 1,000 users is an optimistic number or not. 1:29 users across the BB universe? I suppose if you start allowing users to sign up for their 2nd team well in advance of the start of the next season, you'll have a better idea of the number of users that plan to have a 2nd team.

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255435.44 in reply to 255435.43
Date: 3/4/2014 10:50:49 AM
Phoenix_Suns
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As the second team is only after purchase of extra money, I am pretty sure it will be less than 1000 managers signing up for this.

I am happy that the discussion lead to "real countries" being untouchable for second teams, but as I am paying for supporter already for years now, I don´t feel the need to pay additionally for getting a second team.

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255435.45 in reply to 255435.18
Date: 3/4/2014 11:00:26 AM
BC Hostivař
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Second Team:
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How many Czech teams will there be in Utopia division I? ;-)

I hope for 12 and rest 4 will be rotating from the rest of the world

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255435.46 in reply to 255435.44
Date: 3/4/2014 11:04:22 AM
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I agree, make the "utopian" league invisible for the rest of BB.

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255435.47 in reply to 255435.32
Date: 3/4/2014 11:14:33 AM
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How will the promotion work the first few seasons?

Will the top 4+ (depending on participants) from each League make it in? Or will there be some other factor?

Last edited by lawrenman at 3/4/2014 11:15:48 AM

From: Olgrey
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255435.48 in reply to 255435.47
Date: 3/4/2014 12:04:26 PM
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I like the 2nd team.

I know coding and the fixed platform of basic program structure are very hard to modify quickly and CORRECTLY so I applaud your quick reaction and implementation of a 2nd team into the existing framework of Buzzer Beater.

That said I only have two major suggestions.

1. Please reconsider merging Utopian players with existing world players. Among many other factors, the lack of an initial large transfer market in Utopia would encourage player development. Keep Utopia players in he Utopia world.

2. Please consider implementing a draft which is not based on league standing. Much like the NBA is considering, every team would get 1st round pick once every 16 seasons - since 16 team leagues. Etc for 2nd, 3rd round and so on. It would limit tanking.

Since all teams get equal access to players, group drafts by the pick different managers have - 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc go into one draft pool instead of pooling all managers together in their division. Also, merge all human managers together in the draft pools and bots would draft in their own pools.

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