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Date: 2/16/2010 3:29:09 PM
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Well, I'm not sure if the problem is this big as you think it is. If we take Canada, BC Toroo, as an example (since it has been used a lot already here). We see Canada had ~100 managers at the start of season 3, ~150 at season 6, their current number is at 764 managers. Toroo dominated the (international) scene every single season since season 1.

I think Japan is not the best example to use, since we didn't release the japanese translation yet, which surely limits growth. Translations are one of the most important factors to make a country grow.

Česká Rep. is being dominated by two teams, Hostiva and Frydek, taking nearly all trophies since season 5. Česká Rep. started in season 3 with 0 managers, got around 180 in season 6, and are over 675 now in season 11.

Taiwan is being dominated by a few teams taking all the titles since Taiwan joined the game in season 3. Shang Lan Qiu, won the league in nearly all seasons. They also won the cup 3 times. The other great team is The Tainan Screaming Tainanians winning the cup 4 times and the league once. Then we got a third great team which took the remaining three titles, two leagues and 1 cup; Rain of Pain.
Taiwan started in season 3 with 0 managers, got around 25 in season 5, and are currently at 487 teams. Again, another country that was, and still is, dominated by just a few teams.

Don't get me wrong, I surely don't want to underestimate the problem if there is any, but I couldn't find some good teams (countries) that support your statement this fast.

I think in the very long run it's extremely hard for the top teams in countries to stay ahead of the pursuing pack. Top teams that want to compete in B3 probably make less money than the ones with cheap rosters enough to improve slowly and stay competative in their top league. In the end, the top teams will be caught due to this difference.


dude, you've answered my doubts. According to me, your data demonstrate my theory.

Watch those nations is still less than 1000 users with 8 or more seasons behind him.
According to you, these are great numbers, according to me, not. It is not possible that in the world only a few nations have all this love for the BB basket.

I would be curious to see the churn rate of those nations and I imagine that you have already calculated. Can you tell me what is?

I think it is a useful data for understanding the mood of a nation.

Thanks

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Date: 2/16/2010 3:36:14 PM
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Watch those nations is still less than 1000 users with 8 or more seasons behind him.
According to you, these are great numbers, according to me, not. It is not possible that in the world only a few nations have all this love for the BB basket.


but this would have more marketing porpose and nothing to do that small countrys have advantage - if this was a break this will exist when they started but at this time the growth was good.

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Date: 2/16/2010 4:47:32 PM
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I think I must have misread your theory, then. Sorry for that, I thought you mentioned that there can't be growth in very small countries when a few teams dominate the scene. I think the above example demonstrate that theory is wrong.

Currently we've got just a few countries that actually managed to grow with more than 1000 users since season 3. 1000 users isn't a small number, as you suggest. Italia is just ~1000 users above their total in season 5. Spain was at 5419 in season 5, 6474 right now. It's not as easy as you suggest to get 1000 users in a few seasons. I'd say the growth of the quoted countries is pretty huge, you've got to put up realistic numbers and put them into perspective. We got a 55k userbase here, not a 900k one.

I'd say a 500% growth in 5 seasons in Canada, a 375% growth in 5 seasons Česká Rep. and a 2000% growth in Taiwan in 6 season is quite allright. I would be extremely happy if all countries, thus whole BB, grow at this pace.


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Date: 2/16/2010 5:24:12 PM
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I do not think the% growth is a reliable indicator.

The churn rate is rather to understand what I say.

What is the% of people who after having entered, leave the game after 2 or 3 seasons? (the time to understand the real situation and perspective of his own team)

The churn rate is used as a reliable indicator in all market segments in which services are the main key of the market (eg: telephony). I believe that BB could be a valid indicator.

The% of growth may indicate how many people know the game and not how they appreciate it.

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Date: 2/17/2010 6:16:03 AM
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i believe things have nothing to do with cash as i joined during season 9 just before allstar break and australia has a big community i find that i have probably made more money than teams in small countries check this out and this is in two season basically on transfer list
Total Sales: $ 9 639 200
Total Purchases: $ 9 811 188
thats alot of money and this is my weekly income

Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 89 531 Attendance: $ 132 234
Staff Salaries: $ 57 822 Merchandise: $ 24 344
Scouting: $ 0 TV Contract: $ 65 624
Total: $ 147 353 Total: $ 222 202
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 74 849

so you cant do anything if you dont have the mind to do it

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LOL

Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 203 415 Attendance: $ 149 597
Staff Salaries: $ 34 720 Merchandise: $ 28 090
Scouting: $ 0 TV Contract: $ 88 559
Total: $ 238 135 Total: $ 266 246

Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 28 111

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Date: 2/17/2010 10:04:47 AM
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after which criteria, you selected those teams, i mean you kicked out some teams ramdomly like Poland(third biggest nation)

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Date: 2/17/2010 11:23:05 AM
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Thank you for giving a really good example of the economic difference between a country with lots of teams and country with not as many teams.

Game developers, who by an large do an excellent job of making adjustments to the global economy based on the big picture, need to really think through what this means for all of their efforts in tinkering with salaries and how teams with loads of cash affect the TL for the whole BB world, for teams in countries of all sizes and for teams at all levels, high and low, in all of these countries.

(And maybe my suggestions about the modifiers I posted way earlier in this thread can be reviewed, since I still stand by the idea.)

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How about the disadvantages. Like experience, how many games a season do small country powerhouses have to actually see how their players and tactics stack up against certain opponent tactics and players. The fun factor, i really question how much fun can you have playing this game steamrolling opponents all season. Honestly i'd choose to be in a big competitive community over a couple B3 games a season and when you'd actually win something it would be much more gratifying i imagine.

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