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From: MCSmooth

To: Edju
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154960.388 in reply to 154960.384
Date: 8/24/2010 5:23:07 PM
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I still think the drafts all need to be repopulated, even if it means postponing the new draft system until next season. I knew the points displayed for me were wrong, so I patiently waited until it seemed like the draft was working right. I cant even believe the draft was not taken offline while people were able to spend points they didn't have.

And now the solution is that all those players who spent more than they should have(some of whom had to know) get another chance to try out the new scouting system the season it is released, when a redo is most beneficial.

It seems to me like this is the easy fix here, with no thought put into fairness. This solution gives a small(i think) number of users a big advantage, while the only people who would be at a disadvantage after a reset would be the people who haven't done a test run on the new system.

Last edited by MCSmooth at 8/24/2010 5:24:49 PM

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154960.389 in reply to 154960.388
Date: 8/24/2010 6:03:27 PM
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The scout button was actually broken for many players when the draft was released. As Edju already pointed out it's such a small part of the managers that actually used more than they would have used, that the effort of creating whole new draft lists just isn't worth it.

We didn't even investigate the ranking of these managers that used the 'bonus' points. If many of them need to pick last, most of them won't even manage to get a good effect out of these bonus points, since they simply have to wait untill the other 10 teams picked a talent before they do.

Another thing is that the talents didn't get better or worse. The quality of the draft pools stay the same. So in the end it's a huge effort to create all draft pools over again, which has nothing to do with the new system, while the negative effect of not creating those draft pools is that small that it just isn't worth it.

We're sorry for the ones that feel they have a disadvantage now, but unfortunately sometimes the best solution doesn't help everyone.

From: Hadron
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154960.390 in reply to 154960.389
Date: 8/24/2010 6:21:47 PM
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I'd asked this before but I don't think it was answered. How exactly will bot teams pick and how will inactive teams select? If they both will just follow the order given in the baseline rankings that makes it easy for managers who have a lot of inactive teams picking ahead of them to know exactly which players to avoid scouting.

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154960.391 in reply to 154960.390
Date: 8/24/2010 6:30:32 PM
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I'd asked this before but I don't think it was answered. How exactly will bot teams pick and how will inactive teams select? If they both will just follow the order given in the baseline rankings that makes it easy for managers who have a lot of inactive teams picking ahead of them to know exactly which players to avoid scouting.

I believe they do pick in the order of the baseline rankings, but just like in past season where teams received different initial rankings of players, I think each team received their own baseline rankings of players. Just because your scouts thought that your first guy was a baseline 5-baller, doesn't mean some other teams scouts didn't see him as a 3-baller. Since about half of the guys my scouts initial said were 1 or 2 ball ended up with 5 ball star ratings, I think the baseline scouting is pretty poor.
Of course, a BB would need to confirm this.

Last edited by Alec Burke at 8/24/2010 6:30:58 PM

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154960.392 in reply to 154960.389
Date: 8/24/2010 6:52:23 PM
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After seeing that the number of users who got reset was so small I understand the decision. I thought it would be a much larger number considering everyone was so antsy to try the new system out.

I think the new scouting system is great overall, and I think we will see more money spent on scouting in the future. I do think scouting is more expensive under the new system because it seems there is a big margin of error in the baseline rankings. I could have just gotten real unlucky this season though. Being able to have the heights and ages for all players when I set my final draft order makes it all worthwhile.

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154960.393 in reply to 154960.391
Date: 8/24/2010 6:55:50 PM
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Oh...I thought the baseline rankings were the same for all teams. Could a GM or BB please clarify?

I agree with you that the rankings themselves are too far off base though. Seems the word on the street is more like the word of the blind..

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154960.394 in reply to 154960.389
Date: 8/24/2010 7:34:13 PM
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Can't there be league draft reset? Perhaps reset for leagues that had the -point teams in them. If my league has one of them, I for one would like to know.
Addition to is group demonstration worth it. It is when you have 10+ 18 year olds among 1-2 ballers.

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154960.395 in reply to 154960.365
Date: 8/25/2010 12:59:11 AM
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3, you are wrong here , if you didnt do the combine or the demo thing you could actually scout, so people that went negative and knew they would could have used points to scout alot of players and interview them , took screenshots , then after the rest did the combine and then they would know exactly who the good ones where with out needing to rescout them leaving them free to scout others.

that being said im fine with no reset , i have a good list :)

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154960.396 in reply to 154960.395
Date: 8/25/2010 7:37:20 AM
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If I click the "Submit Ranking" button, does that mean I have made my final choice? Or that I "save" my list, but that untill the draft starts I still have the option to make changes and re-submit!?

Just organized my list with all 18-year olds at the top, then by height, and after a restart that is all gone :)

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154960.397 in reply to 154960.396
Date: 8/25/2010 7:45:31 AM
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You need to save it after sorting.

But until the draft actually happens you can change and save it as often as you want to. Only the final version will be used for the draft.

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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154960.398 in reply to 154960.396
Date: 8/25/2010 7:46:14 AM
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you save your list, you can save lot of times

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