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112356.39 in reply to 112356.38
Date: 10/9/2009 10:55:12 AM
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However, if you consider that to get a proficient outside d in a 3-2 zone, you probably need a PG/SG with about tremendous outside d, combined with a SF who has about strong. So it sounds like the match-up is still not that great for you.


they could be weaker ;) Especially if you don't have a loosy enthusiam, and a high enthusiam is pretty easy to achive with the NT.

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Date: 10/9/2009 10:58:44 AM
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they could be weaker ;) Especially if you don't have a loosy enthusiam, and a high enthusiam is pretty easy to achive with the NT.


You are right - I didn't think of enthusiasm.

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112356.41 in reply to 112356.27
Date: 10/9/2009 10:58:44 AM
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I do think that the answer to these questions is already in the first two messages of this thread: (112356.1) (112356.2). And yes, I have the impression that the consequences of this are quite big and that quick adaptation offers some quick competitive advantage here.

You are right, as usual :)
Just to be clear, I like the new changes to the GE, all of them: the increased importance of handling and passing, the 'real' zone defense, the rebounding... but I think it needs some fine tuning.

The problem to me is that the adaptation seems only important for inside tactics. When playing r&g you can still forget about offensive flow, as long as your shooting skills are good enough.
The impression I have is that the offensive flow (passing and handling skills) has too much impact on the shot distribution (which affects inside tactics more than outside ones) and too little impact on the shot quality (which would affect more outside shots).

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112356.42 in reply to 112356.35
Date: 10/9/2009 11:05:53 AM
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Ah, ic. Nevermind then


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112356.43 in reply to 112356.37
Date: 10/9/2009 11:17:34 AM
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s9 playoff game

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In this case, the SG was actually the 2nd best option on the court, so no big surprise that he took a lot of shots. Plus you had a prominent inside shot vs a senational inside d. The outside matchup actually looks like it was better.

Care to make another try. ;-)

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112356.44 in reply to 112356.43
Date: 10/9/2009 12:31:40 PM
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Ok, I might as well do some of the work. This low post seems to have worked to some extent, even though the game was lost:

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112356.45 in reply to 112356.43
Date: 10/9/2009 12:32:39 PM
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lol nope, those were all the Low Post i've ever played.

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112356.46 in reply to 112356.45
Date: 10/9/2009 12:53:30 PM
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Ok, here is an example of a failed low post:

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I think I am convinced that it is not a pace issue.

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Date: 10/15/2009 8:32:00 PM
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Check this one

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Who cares?!
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112356.48 in reply to 112356.47
Date: 10/17/2009 7:42:15 AM
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Today I deliberately tried 3-2 zone against an inside team. It looks like it worked. Notice the FG of the guards and the no. of turnovers.
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112356.49 in reply to 112356.41
Date: 10/17/2009 8:16:51 AM
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Well i dont really agree with you in some points.

Can you figure out how hard is to have a guard with good passing and good outside skills to attack for the outside teams? If you dont train some passing it will be really impossible to buy one because they are so expensive. For an inside team its easier to find a guard who only needs passing and OD and nothing more.

In my eyes, skills like handling were really useless with the old GE and outside teams were training that skills, so now the game is more balanced.

The point here is that if you are an inside team you will have 1 question when you play against one outside team. Whats better to use a 3-2 or man to man if you are using a PF as a SF in case that the PF havent a big OD. Thats the big difference with the 2-3, because the outside teams that use a PG or a SF without much inside skills they will play 2-3 for sure for the rebound more than for the help of the SF in the inside defense zone.

This GE is really balanced because now all the skills of the players are useful(well i still got doubts with SB)

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