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From: buliwyf
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20276.39 in reply to 20276.38
Date: 3/28/2008 6:16:28 AM
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First I want to remind you to look into that:
I found another Bug which increases the fouls made.

(2286958) about 1:21 before the end of the game. 4 fouls in 5 seconds by my opponent and 2 fouls by one player ;-)


I know you have trouble with the server which you have to solve first. But I just wanted to remind you. Than I had another Problem in my last Scrimmage (3984586). The engine thought I play TIE. I chose a Line-up of a game in which I actually played TIE but this should have no effect on the Scrimmage.

To all managers: You must not try this, because it had no positive effect on my enthusiasm.

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20276.40 in reply to 20276.39
Date: 3/28/2008 6:38:59 AM
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Hi,

My semi final defeat (3981154)

played Normal with 10 enthusiasm
against a CT with 4 Enthusiasm

lost by 15.
this only demonstrates that enthusiasm doesn't work as expected or the engine is still not very deterministic.
Otherwise, I can't explain the terrible Field goal percentage, inside and outside even with much better offensive flow. Furthermore, he took 3 rebounds less than i did, although he's 1 whole level below in Rebounds.

thanks,
Maybe next season I'll eventually get this cup...
yaniv


Last edited by yanivsag at 3/28/2008 6:40:03 AM

From: CitB

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20276.41 in reply to 20276.40
Date: 3/28/2008 6:41:52 AM
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at least his defense-ratings matched your attack-ratings, also i think homeadvantage gives a little fg-percentage boost.

From: yanivsag

To: CitB
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20276.42 in reply to 20276.41
Date: 3/28/2008 10:51:13 AM
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As far as I know home court advantage is reflected on the team's ratings.
I know his defense matched my attack, but it also happened the the way around.
Nevertheless his FGP was better. This can only mean a level 10 enthusiasm is pretty worthless.

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20276.43 in reply to 20276.42
Date: 3/28/2008 6:34:36 PM
1986 Celtics
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HCA is not reflected in the ratings.

i'm not so shocked at that result actually... we didn't say we removed the randomness.. we simply reduced it, and looking at that game its not clear to me that you should have won.

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20276.44 in reply to 20276.38
Date: 3/28/2008 6:41:46 PM
1986 Celtics
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those are two different decisions... i'll take a look though. i did put in the logic that you should foul when you don't have enough fouls to get to the bonus when you are down towards the end, but maybe i have an off by one error and it was fouling one too many times... anyway i'll look into it.

From: wozzvt

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20276.45 in reply to 20276.39
Date: 3/28/2008 6:50:49 PM
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I'll second this concern re: scrimmage intensity. For example, in this game (3984714) it says I put more effort into the game than my opponent. I thought you couldn't set scrimmage intensity, and therefore we should be at the same effort? Also, I'd rather not be normal-ing my scrimmages if it's going to bring down my enthusiam (or prevent it from going up).

Any clarification?

From: Kermmy
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20276.46 in reply to 20276.44
Date: 3/28/2008 6:51:45 PM
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i did put in the logic that you should foul when you don't have enough fouls to get to the bonus when you are down towards the end, but maybe i have an off by one error and it was fouling one too many times... anyway i'll look into it.


I had this situation in my PL today.

My opponent is down by one possession with a about a minute left in 4Q and only 2 team fouls. They foul twice immediately to get to 4 team fouls, then fouled immediately again to put my SG on the line.

Was the 3rd consecutive foul what you intended with them only down one possesion and about 50-60 seconds left?

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20276.48 in reply to 20276.45
Date: 3/28/2008 8:33:17 PM
1986 Celtics
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This is a bug in the page.... it looked at the intensity in the tactics table, however the game engine does not give any bumps to the teams based upon the tactics when the game is a scrimmage. The page should simply check to see if its a scrimmage before deciding whether to report the difference in CT/TIE/normal.

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20276.49 in reply to 20276.46
Date: 3/28/2008 8:34:20 PM
1986 Celtics
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I think that's right.. i'll look at it. seems down 3 with ~ minute to go is when this happens right?

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