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From: WFUnDina

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217966.39 in reply to 217966.34
Date: 5/24/2012 4:29:09 AM
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I am making these argument as JBBL champ for a reaosn, because no aspect of the game held me back. Its a goofy game. I won last season cuz my major competition tanked or quit. Sharman quit it seems even, former B3 winner. THe list of people who got to a high level in this game and felt it favored them too much and was imbalanced/too easy and then quit is pretty long. In Japan too, but micronation is part of that. Now though the entire economy is wacked out.


I agree with you to a point. The economy is out of whack, but its hardly because of the Transfer List and players values. Its because of the (sic)revenue that being in small or micro nations are allotted. Just because you residue in Peru (no idea just guessing) you get to charge twice as much for tickets as a player that just signed up in Spain. Along with getting a bigger TV contract. This is were the economy is out of whack. We know this issue won't be resolved, since people in those nice revenue pockets, won't give up their advantage.

I don't care if NT players sell for 200k even really, overall that might not be bad thing, but what is nuts then is why are 30k and 40k salary players selling for 400 and 500k???? imbalance. The range of 10kish gaurds and 20kish bigs don't go FA, creating a void at that value range, lower division teams are FORCED to shop in the 30/40k salary range player, either htat or its the vanilla team and slow to develop trainees they are stuck with, and they never promote. Its just those low division team spending bunches on 30~40k guys that can promote, and they have a harder time at it then if lower salaries were aviable for like 5k etc. players that would be useless to me.


The reason that 30 to 40K Guards sell for that much, compared to similarly priced Bigs, is that there aren't enough of them to fill demand. I know several managers that are looking for "good" PG's they are just harder to come by unless you buy Old players.

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Date: 5/24/2012 6:10:34 AM
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I am making these argument as JBBL champ for a reaosn, because no aspect of the game held me back. Its a goofy game. I won last season cuz my major competition tanked or quit. Sharman quit it seems even, former B3 winner. THe list of people who got to a high level in this game and felt it favored them too much and was imbalanced/too easy and then quit is pretty long. In Japan too, but micronation is part of that. Now though the entire economy is wacked out.


I agree with you to a point. The economy is out of whack, but its hardly because of the Transfer List and players values. Its because of the (sic)revenue that being in small or micro nations are allotted. Just because you residue in Peru (no idea just guessing) you get to charge twice as much for tickets as a player that just signed up in Spain. Along with getting a bigger TV contract. This is were the economy is out of whack. We know this issue won't be resolved, since people in those nice revenue pockets, won't give up their advantage.

I don't care if NT players sell for 200k even really, overall that might not be bad thing, but what is nuts then is why are 30k and 40k salary players selling for 400 and 500k???? imbalance. The range of 10kish gaurds and 20kish bigs don't go FA, creating a void at that value range, lower division teams are FORCED to shop in the 30/40k salary range player, either htat or its the vanilla team and slow to develop trainees they are stuck with, and they never promote. Its just those low division team spending bunches on 30~40k guys that can promote, and they have a harder time at it then if lower salaries were aviable for like 5k etc. players that would be useless to me.


The reason that 30 to 40K Guards sell for that much, compared to similarly priced Bigs, is that there aren't enough of them to fill demand. I know several managers that are looking for "good" PG's they are just harder to come by unless you buy Old players.



There aren't enough to fill demand, because all the guys with the potential to be trained to this point would usually be bought and trained by lesser division teams. But the owners of said teams are not successful in acquiring the prospects to train in the first place.

5 days i've spent trying to unload almost 70k at "10-50K" selling 18 year old PA potential guards, and 5 days I have been outbid on every single one. Is it too much to ask to just land 1? Trying to train 3 at once here, a 3rd PA pot guy would be nice, but I can train the allstar guy have currently. I'm trying to help the economy as an indirect result of helping myself. But not having much luck in doing so.

Overall I'd have to say I agree with Wolph

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Date: 5/24/2012 9:14:50 AM
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5 days i've spent trying to unload almost 70k at "10-50K" selling 18 year old PA potential guards, and 5 days I have been outbid on every single one. Is it too much to ask to just land 1?


What are you even talking about...... Its the beginning of the season when 18yos are worth more. By the way, I nabbed 1 for 15K.

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From: WFUnDina

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217966.46 in reply to 217966.43
Date: 5/24/2012 9:45:21 AM
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The revenue in small natoin has a glass ceiling . WE can never have the TV or arena money that big nations do, we are at about DII or DIII even sometimes comparative revenue of big nation...depending on nation size. So basically you have like if its a 6 user nation then their league is about as competitive as USA DV but their income is about USA DIII, they can utilize to create surplus but they can basically never be anything in B3 because they don't have the income to maintain the players. Literally DI in large nation can be making around 100k more a week on average.

I agree that its imbalanced, but its not the same issue.


I can tell you right now this is BS. How do I know. Malice is the 1 that brought me here. He started 1 month before me. Even being in D.II his entire career, he's had the luxury of making at least 3x, what I have. So 1 month and a 3 division head start should be worth 3x capital gains? Thats not the same to D.III in the US.

Also you make this accusation 'we'll never give up the advantage' Small nation users have been lobbying ot be merged or made into larger nations forever, me especially. IT falls on def ears. IT is the BBs that wont let us play in larger nation, so take your empty accussation turn it sideways, and ask the rock what to do with it next. You are just being silly wehn you say that.

False accusation. No its not. If it were, all income in the game would be equal. Sure some users, including yourself, may want to be part of larger nations, like I said, if everyone did, then way aren't people lobbing for income equality though out and not just fixing the TL. They don't.

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Date: 5/24/2012 10:34:51 AM
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nabbed 1 for 1,000 on 5/18 and another for 4750 same day

just frustrated that it took me 5 days, and 68k to nab a 3rd.

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Date: 5/24/2012 11:52:24 PM
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May I ask what exactly your TV revenue is? This way we can compare it to US D.II's, III's, and IV's.

And also I'd like to say your approach to the training then selling issue is a little bit silly, of course you shouldn't be able to buy a player and then sell that player and make money simply off training when compared to how much you payed for him along with salaries. It is when you begin to take into account the fact that the player was playing for you, hopefully winning games, putting fans in the seats and making you money that way that you can see if a player made you money.

And yes I too believe that the price for high potential rookies is outrageous but in my opinion a lot of that has to do with the lure of NT glory.

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