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29708.39 in reply to 29708.36
Date: 5/11/2008 6:27:20 AM
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If that is the case then guard trainers are going to be able to make more $$ when they take a player with high potential to his potential, and a centre with high potential is going to be worth less than a guard with high potential based on the rarity of the quality guard to the market.

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Date: 5/11/2008 6:36:03 AM
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Have you thought that the potential organized in this way will give a big advantage to the centers and a big disatvantage to everyone that trains SFs? 3 skills need a centers, the double a SF (or a good guards).


I don't believe this is the case, and that's why I said it was correct qualitatively, not quantitatively.

so would the potential be a sort of salary cap?
for example:
potential:bench warmer--- salary cap:10k
hall of famer--- salary cap: 200k
in this case guards, whose salary increases more slowly, have more possibilities to grow in skills..

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29708.41 in reply to 29708.40
Date: 5/11/2008 9:36:08 AM
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Have you thought that the potential organized in this way will give a big advantage to the centers and a big disatvantage to everyone that trains SFs? 3 skills need a centers, the double a SF (or a good guards).


I don't believe this is the case, and that's why I said it was correct qualitatively, not quantitatively.

so would the potential be a sort of salary cap?
for example:
potential:bench warmer--- salary cap:10k
hall of famer--- salary cap: 200k
in this case guards, whose salary increases more slowly, have more possibilities to grow in skills..


i think this is the way it works

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29708.42 in reply to 29708.34
Date: 5/11/2008 3:23:32 PM
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Well, the limit does not change, but it does affect each position.

Guards get their cap divided over 6 skills and Centers over 4 skills. Which means a center with the same potential as a guard can always train to a higher lever than the guard. This is obviously unfair to the guard trainers.

Is it? I dont agree. You are right in saying that a center can train his 4 skills higher until he reaches his soft cap compared to guards. But dont forget that a guard, with lower skills, is worth more money than a center on the transfermarket...That equels it all


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29708.43 in reply to 29708.42
Date: 5/11/2008 3:29:05 PM
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I agree completly.

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29708.44 in reply to 29708.42
Date: 5/11/2008 6:03:21 PM
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But on the field a guard with lower skills is not good as a center with 3 or 4 higher skills and I'm more interested in the results.

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29708.45 in reply to 29708.44
Date: 5/11/2008 6:33:08 PM
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well everybody will have to field guards as well as centers. The guy training centers has a better trainee but earns less from selling (and can therefor spent less on other positions) and the guy that trains guards maybe has a worse player but a higher selling trainee with which he can buy better players for the other players.

In the end Centers with 3 very high skills and Guards with lower but more skills, that had the same training time might be around the same price, meaning that from the selling price of one trainee you could get the other kind and both teams (that managed exactly the same except for training position) might have about the same team.
Ofcourse if Center training stays more popular than guard the guardtrainer might still be better of since he can even afford an even better center.

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29708.46 in reply to 29708.42
Date: 5/11/2008 7:09:39 PM
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The only reason why guards are worth more is because the demand is high but the offer is low. Most people train Centers. It has nothing to do with the skills the player has, yet alone the potential.

If you can think of a way to put a link to something that really evens it out then i'd be happy to debate on it, but you're currently saying that because guards worth more than Centers, they should be inferior to centers due to potential, because then it will even it out. How is that fair?

Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 5/11/2008 7:15:05 PM

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29708.47 in reply to 29708.44
Date: 5/11/2008 7:36:40 PM
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But that has nothing to do with potential. That 'problem' (a problem everybody has to deal with...everybody can choose the way he wants to train) already existed before adding the whole potential thing.

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Date: 5/11/2008 7:49:20 PM
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The only reason why guards are worth more is because the demand is high but the offer is low. Most people train Centers. It has nothing to do with the skills the player has, yet alone the potential.

If you can think of a way to put a link to something that really evens it out then i'd be happy to debate on it, but you're currently saying that because guards worth more than Centers, they should be inferior to centers due to potential, because then it will even it out. How is that fair?

The question is; why is the demand so high for guards? And will the marketvalue of guards stay higher compared to a centers?

A guard needs more than 3 types of skills being trained. Training more skills takes more time. Therefore you will always have lesser guards available on the market, results in higher value...Add to that fact training a center looks easier for newbies, i know it did to me, brings in even more centers making the market for guards quite nice

Potential doesnt change a thing on this because a center wont train faster, or a guard slower since the recent adding of potential.

Last edited by Maupster at 5/11/2008 7:51:56 PM

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29708.49 in reply to 29708.48
Date: 5/11/2008 8:09:46 PM
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Riceball answered to your question regarding the selling price; there are less guards on the market = higher price. Why there are less guards on the market? Because it's really difficult to train them and people that train 6 different skills generally prefers to keep in roster these players.
Why the potential is the focus of this discussion? It's easy, because if I've an amount of 100 points in total, with the centers I've to split these 100 points in 3 skills, it means that I can arrive to a very high level, instead with the guards I've to splits these 100 points in 6 skills so I can reach a very high level divided by 2.

This is just a theory cause nodoby still knows what happens in concrete; I suppose I'm at the limit of training cause I've at least 2 complete players, I only hope to not waste time and training with them.

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