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10940.4 in reply to 10940.3
Date: 12/29/2007 4:43:18 PM
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Then I'm not to sure why having the players Best Position change would even bother to happen in the first place. All it does is effect the Roster sorting option

Not entirely true. If you scout your opponents well, a change in one of his players' Best Position could tell you how that player is being trained.

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10940.5 in reply to 10940.4
Date: 12/29/2007 8:09:15 PM
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Nothing for a player is affected by what Best Position he has other than the roster sorting option.

He could be listed as Janitor and he'll still train and perform as he would with any other BP.

A lot of successful users track their players using a spreadsheet or other data-manipulating program. You may want to look into doing so.

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10940.6 in reply to 10940.3
Date: 12/29/2007 8:11:17 PM
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I've also thought of another way how training can change the Best Position of a player doesn't make much sense. What if this were to happen to a player before the All-star break. He could have been an All-Star capable player for his original position, but then not because of the position change. Of course this depends on the other teams and players in the league but I'm willing to wager a guess that the player would not make the All-star game as a PG, even though he played nearly all the games as a PG. So in the case of Edward Randle, if this happened before the All-Star break, and his Best Position was changed from a PG to a SF, he wouldn't have a chance to make the All-star team as a PG. Though he had been playing as a PG up until the All-star game. This really would not make any sense obviously.


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10940.7 in reply to 10940.6
Date: 12/29/2007 8:17:33 PM
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the position that is listed next to the player really is not used in ANY of the logic of the game.... all star voting is done based upon the minutes played at a position on the court, not what the suggested position is.

we don't see why we should lock players into being a SF or a PF or whatnot, as certain players can play multiple positions based upon their skill.. adding in such a constraint would unneccesarily reduce a users ability to interpret a players skill the way he or she wants. Now that beings said we thought it prudent to help users get a sense of what sort of player a guy was just by glancing at one thing rather than analyzing all the ratings, so we made this suggested position a function of his ratings. when his ratings change, the suggested position changes, but it doesn't have any bearing on anything other than what the suggested position is listed as.

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10940.8 in reply to 10940.7
Date: 12/29/2007 8:18:12 PM
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the title of the thread i think highlights the problem.. we intended this to be SUGGESTED position, not BEST position.

of course reading what is written in the rules i come to discover this misunderstanding is entirely our fault as it says "best" position there. we will get that fixed.

Edited by BB-Forrest (12/29/2007 8:19:31 PM CET)

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 12/29/2007 8:19:31 PM

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10940.9 in reply to 10940.4
Date: 12/29/2007 8:23:04 PM
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This might be possible if you really kept an eye on the team. In this case, Edward Randle's position was changed from a PG to a SF. I was training Jump Shot for PG/SG. Jump Shot would be one of the last things I would have guessed that Edward Randle's position change was due to.

There might be better examples, but guessing what you opponent is training due to his Best Position change would be a fluke in my opinion. Better to check the players stats, game by game, to see if the player has been more productive in a certain area. But who knows really....

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10940.10 in reply to 10940.6
Date: 12/30/2007 7:06:23 AM
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The All-Star Game positions are based solely on where a player plays the most.

Again, let me make this crystal clear: Best Position affects NOTHING about a player other than where he shows up when a roster is sorted by Best Position.

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10940.11 in reply to 10940.10
Date: 12/31/2007 2:17:42 AM
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The All-Star Game positions are based solely on where a player plays the most.

Again, let me make this crystal clear: Best Position affects NOTHING about a player other than where he shows up when a roster is sorted by Best Position.


following on from a comment i made on another thread this is yet another penalty for training a player out of his natural position.... he is less likely to make the all star team.....

the sooner training is opened up to include more permutations the better... you can then play cup games as you wish etc etc...

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10940.12 in reply to 10940.11
Date: 12/31/2007 3:33:05 AM
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a player is eligible for the all star game a the position that he played the most minutes...there is only a minimum overall games played requirement to be eligible. the amount of minutes he played doesn't factor into whether he makes it or not, just his eligibility.

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10940.13 in reply to 10940.11
Date: 1/3/2008 2:37:34 PM
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If you value the meaningless all star game over training for your players, then don't play your guys out of position.

You can play cup games as you wish now, it's just challenging, which isn't a bad thing.