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From: rcvaz

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Date: 1/3/2010 3:16:06 PM
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Don't forget that it normally takes more than one week of training to pop skills, but I think you have a good routine to repeat along the season. I'm also training G's and have a similar sequence: outside shooting, outside def, outside def, jump shot, handling, passing, etc. Should also take into account if your best prospects are PG's or SG's I guess

From: Pavouk

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JS or JR shouldn't be trained when guys are 18-20, cos' if u investigate deeper in the forums, you'll find they are increased the same speed no matter if the player is 18 or 23. So it's better to train different characteristics when players are young...

From: FatCurry

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Date: 1/3/2010 3:56:33 PM
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One on One is very important for guards if you train it at the guard position it trains JS very quickly. It has been used to train a lot of the current U21 stars and should not be overlooked.


From: FatCurry

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I feel a lot of teams overlook JR and only train JS. JR is now more important in this new game engine. It is also important to consider if they will be single position training or dual. If they will be single position JR trains JS almost as fast as JS does with a greater increase in JR.

From: Batman

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You are absolutely flat out wrong. You know what trains JS best. No it's not one on one. It's.. JS. Trains JR too by the way ;) I respect the value of one on one for SF, SG/SF and SF/PF, but for pure guards it's less than useful. It's harmful in that it takes away from your ability to ad more JS and JR training later on by adding unnecessary salary and potentialy even causing your player to cap before he is complete. Handling on the other hand trains OD and still gives you 80% training in driving.

From: Batman

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It depends on how competitive you want to be early, but I prefer to split it in half. Half now and half later. The main reason is the cost, though. The reason you stated I don't think is correct. Training speed slows down with equal speed for all skills. I have never heard anything to the contrary before.

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Date: 1/3/2010 5:08:52 PM
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I feel a lot of teams overlook JR and only train JS. JR is now more important in this new game engine


I am really torn on this matter. Many of the elite team feel that JR is not important. Infact one of the best teams in all of BB will not train it past proficient. I think it is still a very important skill but question how important it really is.

As far as driving goes, it too is quite controversial. My belief is that alot of the skills you train depend on the long term overall look of your team. If you plan on being a team that pounds the bal inside I would say that passing and driving are huge skills to have. If you want to be a team that plays with lots of motion and shoots the ball from the perimeter driving is a bit less important imo.

For a new player I would strongly suggest balance. Try to build all round balanced players. It ensures that your players keep relatively low salaries and you will soon find that they are out performing guys with double or triple there wages.

From: FatCurry

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Date: 1/3/2010 5:55:50 PM
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I'm afraid your mistaken my friend. You should get involved with the National Team so you can educate yourself on how to train some great players. Powerhouse singleposition training coupled with training JS and 1v1 at the Guard position is what has made players like Joe Bronson (7929116) absolute studs. After learning what I have learned from the NT I would have trained more 1v1 at the guard position.

Training Handling does add OD to the same effect that 1v1 trains JS but it also trains Driving at the same rate that Driving itself trains Driving. Therefor your point that Ha is better since it concentrates on "more important" skills is moot. It comes down to if you want your player to grow faster in JS or OD. In the end the combo of JS and 1v1 will make him fly up in the JS skill, while saving time and allowing more weeks to train Driving and Ha. I would suggest you message Bronson's owner, ChewBrian, or Coco for more insight as they have been a fantastic asset to training my guy.

Note: I'm not arguing with your point that JS trains JS best but in a training regime you need both JS and 1v1 at the guard position, and is in no way harmful.


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Date: 1/3/2010 5:59:06 PM
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Infact one of the best teams in all of BB will not train it past proficient. I think it is still a very important skill but question how important it really is.


I'd like to hear from who this is also as it was some of the top US teams and trainers that advised me to train more JR (Especially ChewBrain). I think its become more important in the current engine.

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Date: 1/3/2010 6:36:21 PM
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Great post FatCurry!!

I agree that more people should get involved in there NT's. It has shown me how to properly train players and how to use tactics to your advantage.

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