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Do we actually have any decent 18yo's left after the first round with the new draft? Highly unlikely.

thats depend on the league, in very active leagues not but i lot of low level iv with some "inactive" players and bots i saw quite good third round picks.

I think this falls into the category of "Great Idea but..."

I would personally really like this. It would add more interest in the draft, etc. My big reservation is that it will help some managers more than others. The "off season" starts early in the playoffs if not sooner for most teams, and I think many managers like aren't logging so often at that point, so they would be at a disadvantage in the draft. Sure, the later rounds usually produce mostly players that won't be worth much and so the best players will go in the first round when everyone will have equal chance to set their priority lists, but in lower leagues it's not always the case and some good players are still around in the later rounds. Also, the team with the first pick in each round is out of all playoffs, and I doubt too many depressed relegating managers want to log in only to set their next list of draft priorities.

Yeah, I'm exaggerating the negatives a bit, but I'm not sure the idea, as much as I really do like it, outweighs the negatives enough to justify the change.

But keep these sort of great suggestions coming!

when i understand him right, you could still make the complete list before the first round. So maybe your draftees don't fit that good to each other, but you still pick the dudes u considered as best when u don't change the list.

Yes, but it would take weekly action to adjust the list to achieve the advantage mentioned in the first post for similar adjustments to suit strategy. If a team grabs a dud in the first round, then maybe that team will make either a riskier or more conservative adjustment, for example. It's the adjusting that is the advantage.

I like a lot your proposal. The more you invest in draft, the more information you have. Teams spending money in draft can use their information in the diferent rounds to change the order. For example you can find that you have your PG in your first round but nobody chosed this tall C with good potential in that round, so you can try to put it at first place suspecting nobody have information about him. I think it makes the draft process more interesting and dinamic and makes your money spent in draft more usefull (it is not as usefull as could be now).

I like the idea of hiring a scout to get the draft points, but i think one of the worst things in this game is how the salary of doctor, PPRR or trainer rise each week. If hiring a scout means another guy with salary rising without control, no thanks, i can live without it.

It wolud be grate to hore scouts with specialities like "Inside players scout" or "ouside players scout" leting you to scout tree tall draftees with two scout points and similar things.

i agree about the staff salary...i don't mind the increase...otherwise you you could find a absolutely fantastic staff member at cheapo prices and keep him that way forever...but the fact it rises every week is a bit much...but i understand they are just making it so that we have to keep active in the game in order to have best staff for the cheapest amount...

i forgot all about the specialties...you could make em sort of like the 2 post-all star games buttons...have a guy with the specialty of "combine specialist" and then maybe the combine only costs you 6 scout points instead of 10 and the other specialty could be "hidden gem finder"...or something...and then the group demonstration only costs 6 instead of 10...*shrug*...but the scout staff isn't even the main idea put forth here...so i should get back to discussion that...

i think that it would actually make those that are the last place relegating teams be more likely to log in...cause as it is right now...they really don't have anything to log in for...but the draft is made specifically for these people more than those who are the favorites for the championship...you look at the NHL, the NBA, the NFL...you get a team that finishes last vs a team that finishes first...i can tell you with almost 100% certainty that the fans of the last place team are more excited for the draft than the first place...cause they are the ones getting the Halls and the Seguins...the Lebron Jameses...the Reggie Bushs...i know if i have a first place draft i'm gonna be a little more excited to see how the player i pick is gonna measure up than if i have the last place pick...why do you think a lot of better teams...when they know they're gonna kick butt this season invest less in the draft...with the draft right now...the last place teams don't have games...so they don't log in for a couple weeks so that they can see what they get in the draft...where if you have a draft round taking place that first Tuesday and then that Saturday and the following week as well...they're are more likely to log in at those times cause they actually have a reason to...

as for the idea that no one usually drafts to wildly in terms of positions...i have come to realize I'm a bit of an oddity in these managerial games...but i don't draft to train and then sell...i draft to get players that are gonna help me win...i try to build a stable economy through ticket sales and then draft players i need...maybe this is why i don't win a whole lot...but it's what i like...as i said...I'm an north American sports fan...we don't see our teams drafting just for the sake of selling that player for money...they draft so that in the future he will make the team better either through play of trade...that's the example i play by...and so i do that...you usually can't draft an instant starter like Cleveland did with James...or Toronto did with Bosh...but i look at my team...i see where I'm weakest...and i draft to that position...and if it's just a backup I'm looking for...i draft to that position as well...and when you do that...the positions you look to draft do vary...how the draft is now...i basically pick what i want in the first round...not always get it...but that's the most control you have...but after that...round 2 and 3 are a bit random...sometimes you get lucky and no one has the same scouting info on your 2nd and 3rd choices and you get them as well...other times you get someone that is completely useless what you're trying to build your team up as...i have 4 good, young, tall inside men...so i don't look for that type in the draft anymore...unless my scouting has revealed that the top 10 players are tall inside men...then i may go for em with the intent to sell...sometimes the draft dictates that you draft for the best...some times you can draft to position...but the point being...i don't really want anymore big men...and yet every draft...i usually get some...usually in the later rounds...

where if you have the option to adjust between rounds...it would be less random...i know right now i could just send all the PF's and C's to the bottom of my list...but I'd rather get a great C than a lousy SF even if i don't NEED a C...so if i could go in before the second round...see what's been taken...what's left...i can decide then if i should draft a good C i don't need or if there's still some good enough players that i can draft to position for this upcoming round...

and i would say that you'd just leave the draft rankings how it is...so that if someone doesn't care as much...they can just set it once and let the draft decide for em...the only difference would be that in between rounds...you can adjust your rankings to better suit what you have learned so far in the draft and what you need moving forward...

as for the point of this giving too much advantage to those players that log in more than those that don't...i don't mean to sound anal...and i do understand that there are some players that just CAN'T log in as often as they'd like...but in these sort of games...shouldn't we reward those people that log in often...even knowing that there are people that can't log in as much as they'd like...probably 90% of the time...people log in more cause they are more interested...and people log in less cause they just have a casual interest...and i think that heightened attentiveness and higher interest should be rewarded...you pay more attention to the game...you do better...you pay less attention...you'll lose a slight advantage...

You're logic says that managers who can log in during games can also change their tactics every quarter. If you want to be active then play the transfer market. Logging in 3 times for draft at only one point of the season does show activity feed? This game does not make you log in at specific times, want a HC game, WOW cataclysm was launched. Get into a HC raiding guild and you can raid 7 days a week from 19:00-01:00. I love this game because it does not make me log in every hour. Even when buying players I can bid the amount I'm willing to spend right away.
NB! You should always draft the best rookie available. Setting 3 PF's as your first picks is kind of silly (considering there are other better options on the table). Even if you plan on training a draft player as you future star and get some nice merchandise off of him. It's better to draft a great player than just a spot filler. You can always sell your current PF trainee, train you great drafted SG and buy an older established player for that PF spot.

It's a great idea. Best idea I've seen on here in ages. Bit concerned on the requirement to move the draft from off-season processing to regular season processing that it needs to work - maybe a BB could enlighten us on whether it is feasible.

@Kukoc, you do talk some rubbish sometimes. There are plenty of strategies on playing this game available to players and drafting the best player available to suit your training schedule and current roster will suit plenty of teams over simply drafting the best player available to sell on the market.

but to have 3 different rounds wouldn't make you have to log in bunch of times a day...you have a draft tuesday...you log in wednesday...readjust draft order...you have a draft saturday...log in sunday...readjust draft order...that's twice a week...the people in the playoffs are gonna be logging in the same amount to check how their games went anyway...this just gives those not in the playoffs a reason to log in...

when i say that someone loggin in more often should get an advantage...i mean logging in like...once a day to make sure everything is going well rather then once a week...

by bidding your limit on players that you want to buy off the market right away...you might be throwing away money...so right there...you're already proving the point...that a person that logs in more often and pays attention during a bidding war...they might be able to get the player for less money than if you just go in and bid your limit right away and then log in in a couple of days to see if you got him or not...

setting 3 PF's as your top 3 picks is not silly if you really feel that you need a PF and there is enough quality PF's that even if your first 2 are taken before your pick the 3rd one is still a great pick...then it makes sense to set it that way so that you are sure you're getting the PF...but as i mentioned before...then if you get your 2nd PF...and no one takes your 3rd pick...you get another quality PF...which isn't the worst thing i know...at the very least you can sell him if he's good enough...but if you could of used something else...it'd be nice to have that option to switch things up and prioritise on another position for your next round...

I log in often. I just think spreading the draft out on different weekdays is not a good idea. I like to get my draftees on one day, sell them before I have to pay their salary or relese them if they are not worth anything (which usually is the case for every 2-nd, 3-d rounder). If BB's would like to implement it then do it one the same day with 15 minute breaks before the next round. It's like ASG, you want to watch guys shoot the 3-s you log in. You want to see the results log in later.
I'm pretty sure that 99% of the time nobody changes their set draft order after the first round.

by bidding your limit on players that you want to buy off the market right away

Sometimes setting a high initial bid removes the excess intrest on that particular player.

that a person that logs in more often and pays attention during a bidding war

obviously, but is it vital to log in often to be good at this game? Daytrading is the only way an active manager can get ahead. Daytrading is hard though and the few that can successfully constantly do it are the lucky ones. It's gotten even harder with the current economy (which is great). I don't like games that force me to log in. That's why this is a great game.