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So my money relies on TV game revenue once or twice a season? That doesn't make much sense. Another thing that doesn't make much sense is that I came in 2nd place last season and had a home playoff game. Total attendence was 945 fans, out of 5,000 capacity. Total money amounted to a measley $9,000. Why wasn't it sold out? Home playoff game. When was the last time a home playoff game wasn't sold out? I had more people in the regular season come to the games than I did for a playoff game. How is that possible?

And even with the 2 more week of $50,000, I'm only netting like $5,000 per week, because I pay my team salary over $30,000 my staff over $10,000. I only get $1,000 for merchandise and practically nothing for scrimmages. Like I said, I can see myself bankrupt in 4 or 5 weeks. I can't buy players (because I can't afford them). I can't sell anyone, because my players aren't good enough to sell for much of anything. I can't get enough merchandising revenue to make a dent in my economy. I won't have a league game for a few weeks and when I do my revenue is also way too low.

I came over here from Hattrick and I am well versed in knowing how to take care of a team with little funds, but this is crazy. Perhaps I just joined at the wrost time (after last regular season game), but now I have to wait a few weeks until I have an actual league game and even the $50,000 weeks won't keep me with a positive cash flow until then.

I virtually can't do anything but set lineups and and train for the 4 weeks. Kinda sucks.

u r wrong. dont worry that much. everything that u explained is reasonablerif u look deeper into it.

I believe the new season starts next saturday. u dont have to wait 4 weeks its only one more. at least i believe so.
Your timing is not that bad, on monday is Draft day, so u get 3 pretty good players for free u would not get if u started midseason.

it is normal that u dont have many fans if your club just started. think of it this way it was the first game of your club. hire a PR manager and u will have soon many more fans. Next time u reach the playoffs u probably have full attendance.

Hopefully that is the case.

So my money relies on TV game revenue once or twice a season? That doesn't make much sense.

That's not a main source of revenue, it's just an ancillary one. You're team has only just started so you need some time to build up your supporters. It looks like you have a few valuable players, you could sell them if you don't plan to train them. In the next week you'll be getting a few draft picks that might bring a good player or two.

Well planned hattrick teams take their lumps for the first season or two until training programs begin to reap benefits, supporters build-up, etc. I really don't see how this is much different.

To me it seems different, because in Hattrick if I did nothing to my team I was never at risk of going bankrupt doing nothing. Unless some miracle happens, I will be bankrupt in BB in a few weeks. My fan club can't grow that quickly during that time and nothing spectacular will happen to my gameday attendance. Even with the extra $100,000 the last two weeks, my total money is only $116,000. Keep in mind that I started with $100,000. So from my free $100,000 I have managed to keep only $16,000 of it and I havn't done a darn thing. What if I wanted to buy a player or expand the arena (as people say that is important much earlier in BB). I couldn't do it. I can't afford a high level trainer so training is going to take awhile to see the benefits, however I'll be broke by the time my guys start popping to the point they will demand more than 5-10 thousand bucks on the transfer list.

We'll see how it plays out, but right now my hands a handcuffed behind my back and I can't do anything but wait. Not too much fun, but we'll see what happens.

Your arena when your last match was only 20% full. In this case I'd ignore the advice. On one hand this would be a bad time to start for lack of match revenue, but on the other you're just in time for the draft which might be much better for your team then a couple home games revenue (of course, depending on the players you draft).

When I started hattrick the first thing I had to do was get trainees, and to fund that I had to sell off my best players that wouldn't be part of training. At that point, my hands were tied and I couldn't get any new players until at least a season later when I could sell off a training asset or two to fund it. Long term it paid off, but short term I lost alot and wasn't able to make many moves those first few season.

In BB, you might already have players you can train and you only need a couple since you can focus training on fewer players (and they will train faster the fewer you train). I would focus on picking out a position that you have a couple young players worth training, and try to build around that. If you have older players at a training position not a bad idea to try to sell them, there's no loss is even buying them back if they don't get to a price you're happy with since there's no agent fees.

the trick here is to have a winning team, look at your lineup and study your players and adjust. yes thats right get a trainer and keep tweaking that lineup till you win games.

youll see you attendance growing and money coming in, now if your getting the wins better plan now since your getting the 50k, get your arena growing because as you win more games so is your attendance better get that net ready it isnt the real life that people just stand and be like bunch of hams watching.

winning is everything, sad to say this applies also here in virtual world because your sales like jerseys etc also grows.

i hope i dont sound bad but it is what it is.

well,

I also strated a few weeks ago (comming from Hattrick) and also thought, man... end of season, no revenue, not even the small amount from scrimmages... I must be bankrupt before the new season starts.

I didn't know about the 4 weeks of 50k back then, but now, after selling off some players, GOOD players (which are in fact only a little better than the rest, but okay) I am now at 500k !! (sold 2 players for a total of 350k, and yes at first I thought they where not even worth 20k!!) I also bought at least 10 players which are good enough to play in any team for 1k or 2 k apiece....

Do not underestimate your players, I don't think there are any real good ones in the game yet. Average is a prety good skill at this time. I believe, for what I have seen, that inept is a prety average for any player. The 2 I sold for over 100k didn't have anything above respectable.

So my advice: keep your very best player, sell the 3 players that are right behind him. Fire your 3 worst (which you already did). Sell off any players you think you won't be ginving playtime anyway. You should have about 8 to 10 players left which you want to play for you (f.i. 1 starter and sub for each position).
And either buy 5 new players for less than 5k each, or not, depending on the fact that you are satified with the trainability of the players you kept...

Please note that I am new myself, maybe it is bad to sel 2 or 3 of your best, because it might be more important to keep them... I chose to sell, and my bank is not complaining.

You will find if you have decent young players they will sell for a good amount. Everyone is looking for trainees and will pay top dollar.

Thanks for all the replies!

It is interesting because from these responses it seems as though I am getting conflicting answers/suggestions. Some people say sell your good non-trainee players for cash and buy lesser talent. Other people are saying you need to win games and get money from revenue. But how can I win games and fire my good players at the same time? If I don't sell my good players, I don't have enough money to expand my arena to get money. If I sell my good players, I won't be able to win games and fill my newly expanded arena. If I sell players and keep the cash, it seems as though it is just a matter of time before I run out of cash.

I don't know. I think the economy in BB NEEDS to be reworked. If people need to wait several seasons before they can just make managerial moves, what is the incentive to stick around and keep a close eye on your team? I personally think that a lot of people in BB right now came over from Hattrick and are used to the economy (even though BB is more extreme than Hattrick). How is BB going to expand when all the Hattrick converts are over? I think BB needs to look further down the road on this issue. It really isn't fun to sit around and not have enough money to do anything for 1-2 seasons. I personally will stick it out because eventually it will payoff (I hope), but the only way I know that is coming from Hattrick. Most lay people won't be willing to put up with it.

I'm not trying to complain or anything, but I just want this site to sustain itself and I'm being honest. If I was just a typical person that didn't come from Hattrick, there is no way I would be interested enough to stick around.

I think I will update this thread as the new season starts and chronical my economic choices and status. Perhaps it will be of some use down the road for BB as it evolves.