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205486.4 in reply to 205486.3
Date: 12/29/2011 4:38:52 PM
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I think we all know reallife players who reached their maximum later then 31, but that are the game rules, we know it and handle with it. The question is not if its realistic or not, the question is: Is it productive for fun game? For me, triple-downs would be really frustrating, and the influence of randomness is to big in this case (as said, imho). Why not combine a constant skill-down-factor with a random,small decline?

The advantage would be the possibility to play with players older than 31 - i would never buy i player who could have triple-downs because of the impossibility to plan with such guys, and i think the majority of the managers would agree.

From: Kukoc

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205486.5 in reply to 205486.4
Date: 12/29/2011 4:53:47 PM
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If you are buying a 33yo to be your teams franchise player, then you are actually sinking your own boat. Think about the NT players with massive total skills. Even with occasional triple downs, it's going to take a bunch of seasons to decline them to garbage. Even if they drop one skill on average per week. With skill totals (ft,st,exp excluded) of 120-130, we are looking at 50+ skilldrops to all skills at 7 player. That's near 4 seasons. Player with all around 7-s can still produce at IV div or be a bench player in divIII (depending on countrys this may vary hugely!). At 33, they already had 15 seasons of playing. After that they might pull out 4-5 more with NT lvl skills declining. To me this seems ok.

From: CrazyEye

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205486.6 in reply to 205486.5
Date: 12/29/2011 5:01:12 PM
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this suggestion is not about stopping the skill decline, it is just about making it different then loossing 0,05 JS the first week, 0,1 the next, then 0,05 again and in the next week it drops 3 skills in total.
If these numbers are represental, a skilldrop around 0,8 skills each week would be my favourite(i know inf act the average is much lower, but those makes it even more unfair for those who get those 3 skill downs at once since you need a very large sample to rule this out).

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205486.7 in reply to 205486.5
Date: 12/29/2011 5:05:28 PM
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i have a 39 year old

Marco Angrillo (11323959) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 1 562
Age: 39
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: bench warmer
Game Shape: average
Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: inept Handling: inept
Driving: mediocre Passing: average
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: proficient Experience: mediocre


who was on my team since season 10 & i have observed a very consistant down pop pattern

but i know that nature of random is it can look like a pattern

but a triple down pop ive never seen not even a double down

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Date: 12/29/2011 5:09:37 PM
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BB-Marin points out that it is very unlikely, yet can happen. It is not a bug by default.

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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Date: 12/29/2011 6:13:15 PM
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BB-Marin points out that it is very unlikely, yet can happen. It is not a bug by default.


Then it must be a great feature.

Not so sure...

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Date: 12/29/2011 6:39:44 PM
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I think they call it "design". Just like this company, which is all about that ... how was it called ... Orange? Cherry?

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205486.11 in reply to 205486.10
Date: 12/31/2011 7:49:18 AM
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I totaly agree with current design.

An old player is to face a major drop of skills. [This must be added also for injured players]
Three drops is not much, comparing to the normal total of skills a player usually have at that age, and comparing to real life skill drop by age.

A player owning that type of player is taking that risk on his own.

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Date: 12/31/2011 7:52:49 AM
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An old player is to face a major drop of skills. [This must be added also for injured players]


i never say make it slower, i just say make the decline constant. So the older player will decline with the same speed then before.

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205486.13 in reply to 205486.12
Date: 12/31/2011 8:58:29 AM
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An old player is to face a major drop of skills. [This must be added also for injured players]


CrazyEye:
i never say make it slower, i just say make the decline constant. So the older player will decline with the same speed then before.


I've verified how many 30+ players you have, and found out you have 6 of those out of 13 palyers in your roster.
This is a fact.
What does it proves? I'll let other to understand for their own.

Not all players are being trained as fast as others and the same is true the other way around. Different players are getting worse with different speeds, and that speed is not constant.

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Date: 12/31/2011 9:03:19 AM
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An old player is to face a major drop of skills. [This must be added also for injured players]


CrazyEye:
i never say make it slower, i just say make the decline constant. So the older player will decline with the same speed then before.


I've verified how many 30+ players you have, and found out you have 6 of those out of 13 palyers in your roster.
This is a fact.
What does it proves? I'll let other to understand for their own.

Not all players are being trained as fast as others and the same is true the other way around. Different players are getting worse with different speeds, and that speed is not constant.


ok that say i like to plan more then to gamble ;) is that what it means? So i am egoistic to post that. I would say, i prefer this even when i had tons of 20 yo. But those double skill downs, was more like an urban lengend before don't know why now so many get reported(maybe since skilled player now reach the needed age?).
But it definately not means, that my old player should decline lslower in fact most of my player will decline slower with the current system, and in average i wouldn't gain anything.

Also when you have so much player who are older, random get more fairer so it would be ok to me even when i like to state that none of my player can get skill downs ;)

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