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From: Muffins

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214883.4 in reply to 214883.1
Date: 4/23/2012 7:39:45 AM
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Nations under that bottom number should be eliminated.


Well, I disagree with the move of eliminating small nations, I don't know about you or the other people here(particularly those from small nations) but one of the biggest reason I like BB is because we(people from nation) are able to come together and discuss about plans etc for our NT. To me, being able to be involved in our NT is one of the most exciting part about BB.

If you were to eliminate our country, I doubt I'll be able to feel the same for the other NT as much as I feel for our country's.
It will really spoil the fun in BB imo.

I don't want to argue, but I'd like to just voice out :)

From: Chekreyes

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214883.5 in reply to 214883.3
Date: 4/23/2012 10:31:25 AM
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I agree with everything in your post except nation sizes. The attendance calculations are off by a mile in this game

From: Tortuga

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214883.6 in reply to 214883.4
Date: 4/23/2012 12:32:05 PM
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How about if we kept our flags and nations and our little NTs but were playing larger World Leagues? At least for the very small nations, Malaysia seems large enough to have active people in D3 so arguably it's big enough to exist independently.

Coming from a tiny nation, I'd be glad if they just announced they were smushing us all into a World League, I'd have restarted again in England or somewhere if I didn't have some cursed sentimentality for my own team built up over the seasons. I could see no problem with that at all if we could still keep our players nationalities and NT's. Players could create their own national and language sub-forums within the league forum if they wished and the only difference would be actually having competition.

I agree with the idea on more dynamic arena incomes too.


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214883.7 in reply to 214883.6
Date: 4/23/2012 2:52:26 PM
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Sacramento hasn't won squat in years, its owners have been raking their fans and the city over the coals since they bought the team, and yet they still have sold 82% of their seats this season. Granted, that is down from 100% in 2007 but as bad as they have been I don't think you can call it droves. There are examples in other sports as well. NUFC got relegated three seasons ago and set a Championship attendance record in their one season down. The Cubs routinely sell over 90% of their seats and they haven't won anything in a long long long time. People don't just go to games to support winners.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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214883.8 in reply to 214883.7
Date: 4/23/2012 3:25:49 PM
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I think you know we're talking about a different scenario from teams that just suck or are badly run.


Newcastle didn't puposefully sell all their players and field a team of 1k players or forfeit all their games in order so save up millions. If they had done, zero fans would have turned up and their plan to make millions would have failed. Should be the same here.

Last edited by Tortuga at 4/23/2012 3:26:21 PM

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214883.12 in reply to 214883.8
Date: 4/23/2012 9:32:22 PM
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Milner, given, martins, Carroll, Enrique- all purposely sold and replaced with MUCH cheaper players. So not so different really. You must not be a Newcastle fan...

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214883.13 in reply to 214883.12
Date: 4/24/2012 2:54:26 AM
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i think in reality there is tradition and good place of location which help clubs also recruiting visitors in bad times, i am quite sure if Real madrid goes bancrupt and had to restrt in 6 league they still get plenty of fans especially compared to other 6 league teams. We had a quite similiar situation in germany with Dynamo Dresden, who lost there license and was demoted out of economical reason.

But it is nice when it is like in the reality, but i think it is even ebetter when it is fun and manager try to compete like in reality. If it is difficult to stay in division today, it is quite stupid to try, since you loose a lot of money but not trying means less fun i think for all. So i would love a change which punish the tankers a bit more, the minimum salary was a good step making the fans more discerning would be a good way to do it and not so unreal.

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214883.14 in reply to 214883.12
Date: 4/24/2012 8:13:22 AM
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Milner, given, martins, Carroll, Enrique- all purposely sold and replaced with MUCH cheaper players. So not so different really. You must not be a Newcastle fan...


Milner and Given were not purposefully sold, they wanted to leave and the club couldn't keep hold of them, Despite that Newcastle tried their best to avoid rtelegation. Carroll and Enrique left 2 seasons later when Newcastle were back in the Premiership, the money was reinvested and they are on the verge of the Champions League. Very different from them selling everyone on auction in one season and having 60k fans turn up every week to watch 25-0 walkovers until they had enough money to buy Barcelonas first team.

Again, I think you know this and are just creating a random tangent unrelated to the point for your own amusement.

Similarly, there really is no decent argument for allowing long term tanking to happen as it does apart from for the entertainment of the few weirdos that do it. For most of us it's just annoying and ruins the illusion of the game.

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