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Nielsen?

Maybe, but Coco did all of the heavy lifting on Nielsen in terms of out-of-position training and getting the secondaries up to par for a NT PF. His previous owner jacked up primaries and trained him exactly one game out of position, a scrimmage at the beginning of his 19yo season when he apparently trained JS. So I hope he's talking about someone else, because getting lucky enough to draft Nielsen hardly qualifies him to criticize the NT. It would be very ironic and slightly hypocritical in fact for him to criticize the NT for not being versatile enough to dominate the opposition like he seems to expect, considering that his previous owner pretty much trained him to a stereotypical "cookie-cutter LI build". And it would also be hypocritical for him to criticize the NT managers, since he ignored direct requests to not continue training IS but to train something else instead, since more IS was unnecessary and had negative cap consequences.

So for his sake, I really hope he's talking about another player and not trying to take credit for Nielsen.

Complaining? Me? Why I'd never do that.

Then what would you call your latest posts regarding the NT because to me it seems like complaining. I'm sure I'm not the only one to. If it ain't complaining then it's bitching

The very talented big he's talking about can't be Nielsen. Nielsen was trained by Coach Storm(wherever he is now)

Not taking full credit for Nielsen but I knew the guy who owned him. That guy would have been a complete noob w/o my help. That guy was intent on making Len into a "superscoring" Amare Stoudamire type. It was his choice, not mine.

Certainly not complaining or "bitching". I'm pointing out very strange problems with the NT. Its bizarre that it has sunk to these depths. Just opening it up to discussion.
Losing to 0-3 Egypt(even with TIE) shouldn't be accepted. The US should be a top 5 power in this game, it has the user base and resources to do so.

What would you suggest that we dont already do to increase the amount of users that care about the NT? I think thats what a lot of these people are taking issue with. This entire Worlds tournament you've been very vocal when we've lost, even asking if Sleet was going to be ousted as coach at one point, and thats really all you've said. I think unless you follow up your comments with ideas, or any sort of commentary other than "Our team sucks and we lost again", people would take it as something other than bitching.


Also the USA has never, since the inception of NT play been a top 5 power in this game. So saying we "should" be one is a bit of a stretch. At the Olympics, just because we are a large country doesn't mean we are going to do well in every single sport. Certainly the ones we hold an interest in we do well in, and rightfully should and do complain when we fail. But to expect soccer gold medals year in and year out, when the USA lags behind several smaller European countries in interest is unreasonable.

Egypt may have 36 users, but I would bet that about half of them are almost fully interested in the NT. Where as in the USA, realistically, there are probably less than 50 users that play a role in what the NT does, and probably 5-ish that would use their club team to help our interests. So I also suggest tempering your expectations to realistic levels. The truth is that this is, i believe, our best team since that season 16 semifinal appearance, and an unfortuante start and some bad luck has hurt us. We are headed in a great direction, but this isn't easy. Winning takes time, as I'm sure you and your 0-13 record can attest to.

You're personal team has never been to a semi-final either. You are 0-13 in IV and are doing nothing to help the NT, so please... there is no need for dumb posts like that. The USA has never been a Top contender for National Teams so I didn't expect them to win honestly, I was just hoping for a decent run. Did it happen? No. At least I am trying to help out our national teams though. Your two trainees are from Latvia and Spain, yet if you care so much about USA's NT then go find a 18 year old hall of famer trainee that is american and make him the star of the future NT team. As others have said, even though Egypt has very few users in it's country. Almost all of them are probably a presence in helping their NT become more successful. I have not seen you do one thing that helps out NT or comment once about a good win that we had.

LOL. This is a new account. I used to manage a team called Illinois B.C that was in D.III before I quit. My team is 0-13 because I am intentionally losing. Considering the US's user base and resources, they should definitely be a top 10 NT. I do intend to get a US player next season. My current two trainees are cash cows. And the gap between US and Egypt is too wide to make excuses to be honest.

I have not complained once. I have simply stated facts. They've been very close to the top 5 on numerous occasions, hovering around the top 10.
People like to exxagerate on how many American players are trained. Tons of US players get trained to high levels domestically and internationally. The talent pool isn't where it should be but it far greater than Egypt's.
And I've worked REALLY hard for my 0-13 record.

Why'd you quit? Bankrupt? and if you are tanking then why are you even complaining about losses? Maybe the US NT is doing the same thing: Losing to teams that they probably could beat, to wait for better talent, in order to make a serious run. Once again, as many people have stated, the gap between Egypt and the US is not actually that big. Egypt was actually ranked above us going into this game in case you didn't notice and they put more effort into the game so we lost (which is generally what happens when two teams are about evenly matched or the better team is only slightly better but put in less enthusiasm). I simply do not appreciate your attitude and find your complaining and constant bashing of our NT to be disrespectful and I bet you some other people on this thread would agree with me.

I quit because I was tired of the game at the time. This is not about me. I have not mentioned your team even once. The fact that you are making personal attacks shows that you are running out of retorts.
The strategy you decribed is probably not the current US strategy.
ive already mentioned that we TIE'd. The fact that Egypt has surpassed us in the rankings plays more to my favor not yours.
And again, I have not complained or bashed, just making true statements about things I am dissapointed with.