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opinion are debatable this why I wrote this.

If lower leagues chamionships are not valid to the game, then why create championship for each league. If its a pie eating contest in the lower divison, then why waste the time to create playoffs and championship for div3 and below. WHy not just let B3 the real championship. If lower leagues are meaningless then why are the restriction so hard on lower league team when higher league are more meaningful to BB over all?

Again I attack your opinion but not you personally. I don't find any validity in your "prompt speech: if I can call it that. . Brandon jenning played for bad over seas team before coming to nba. Many European basketball player have played for major championship in euro team and come nba to play for much smaller bad market teams in usa. At old age and young, A.Sabonis is one player that come to mind,while tony kukoc is exeception to the fact to moot.

Btw kobe Bryant played over seas at age 16 for a bad French/paris team in his youth. So again so how is a older player from a championship caliber don't want come play for bad team in the lower market bracket of sports. This defeats the its realistic approach.

I saw a guys in your league and many others top leagues buying youth for $3500-10k$, How can that will be worth a dam for those leagues of his play in strength , where are the restriction on that. A championship team deserve championship caliber players. ? No

Its free market or is it... How is it free market when lower team cant purchase whom they want to. But a higher base team can buy player at any price. Btw no one said a pie eating contest was easy because there are rivals , how many have you won in real life.? I have'nt won any. I cant eat 59 pie in 3 mins.. But assume you can since your saying it easy and using it as example.

If this rule is going to restrict buys then it should restrict sales as well/But that wouldnt be free market would it. Therefore disgree this rule is for everybody . It for those at the bottom to do a weak draft every year and train train train.

I'm small you dictate small team success and road to the top. Instead of make a fair market, it create rules for certian teams to succeed. If its harder for team to buy its way to the top than train. Then what is the problem.? No matter how we twist it, teams buy championships, if we invest in the BB draft,we are buying a championship for the future of our teams. So what the difference does it make what level of play your own.

If none is dictating rules on ways of play , then why do we have these rules?? Again im not attacking you, just your debatable opinioned . I don't see any valid reason to restrict buy's of players . My example is a b3 championship team should not be allowed to buy eight 3,500k$ players, If the lower team is not allowed to buy eight, 250K$ players what the difference beyond cost?

How is it any different , One can do free market and other cannot because one is championship caliber or ben here longer. We say championship caliber team??. How is team of 3500$ player in top league for B3 winner championship caliber? Some would call that tanking, farming. But let not get into that because its pie eating contest, and some are the poor viewers of lower league to watch others eat the pie and wait their turn .

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/8/2014 6:54:01 PM

Again I attack your opinion but not you personally. I don't find any validity in your "prompt speech: if I can call it that. . Brandon jenning played for bad over seas team before coming to nba. Many European basketball player have played for major championship in euro team and come nba to play for much smaller bad market teams in usa. At old age and young, A.Sabonis is one player that come to mind,while tony kukoc is exeception to the fact to moot.

They came to play in the premier basketball league in the entire freaking world, though. They're not coming overseas to play in the Southwest New Jersey Semi-Pro league.

The simple fact is that if there's a player your team can not purchase because of this feature, then you've been prevented from making a stupid mistake. The number of teams that have been devastated economically because of these stupid purchases is more than sufficient to justify this change.

(edit: And at your current world rank, you can buy players with salaries up to 150000 at least. If you can't figure out how to win without buying 150k salaried players, my condolences)

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 1/8/2014 8:36:47 PM

Who else is ready to hit up the supermarket for some pie? Apple? Pumpkin? Should I start a poll?

Your point in invalid at best. You attack me in your post when every thing I said was a fact. I haven't mention you once in topic in negative manner. To sit here and try twist the facts I just said of life for basketball player going to lower teams is ill of you basket ball knowledge, and is laughable.

If you think the charlotte bobcat could get every euro title unbeaten in every euro league out here in the world. Then I say again laughable. Who is to sit here and say which is the premiere league of the world. Nba is the most popular not , a lot of euro teams have better talent.. Usa talent lose the Olympics versus those same players your saying are weak.

It has nothing to do with stupid mistakes of the managers. It have every thing to do with dictating other ways of play. How many rules will they force down on lower leagues teams throat for sake of fair ness. Then you expect them to stay around? Let be realistic here. Since your dwelling in opinions of your mind when presented the facts.. Your in league 2. So I doubt you give damn about a rules that effect league 4 and below..

I highly doubt you care or give damn because you lined your team with u21 like players and some bought , but dont want anyone to say anything about it. You don't any one to dictate your finances, you don't anyone to touch what you started. But its ok to do that to other's below you in lower divisions. That on line of communism my friend. it's not free economy. Taxing people on player in their own budget with no salary contracts for these players. Bid on a player and bid money don't go towards his contract it just go to the seller, and manager still has to pay the player wage with tax. Who you think is hit harder? why should any have to pay a tax ,if they bought player whole sale. Isn't that player already taxed?

No one can make it but a few, it has nothing to do with how I play. But thats everything to do withlower league teams being able win games in a fair manner. So what ,!! they bought a player for 5 million, who earned that money? who are you and many other to say its not fair and what is fair for lower league teams?. Who put them in charge of lower league finances?


Last time I checked the manager who create the team is sole owner and is the one who dictate finance,s it written write in start up guide. How is the game going turn around and say we know what best for you can't buy this type of player. The game is built on mistakes to positive deeds, not to positive deeds to bone crushing mistakes .That the point you don't understand. If they don't want to train players. who are me , you or anyone else to dictate how they play BB.?

That's the joy of free market. There is no joy in communism or pushing the game toward fasict ways

It not contradictory point, he came to play for a small market ball club( the bucks), from leaving a good one, which you said no good player does . When he could stayed in euro on a better team.


The reason why nba player don't want to go over seas is they have to pay double tax on income. Rather than vise versa.

Yes there is big name star interest in small market teams.. I can 100% assure you of that Give a good reason a small market ball club would not be interested in a big name players. small market team go after the best big name players they can afford, they try to attract them to the team to win. It does not matter if they are winner , all that matter is they want to win..

Orlando magic went out and got tracy mcgrady and grant hill both for 90+ million and tried to get Tim Duncun. all where on winning team at the time. Playoff teams. Orlando magic was a bad team and is considered small market.

1S0 Is not enough for any good player on BB in my opinion. Good player start at 250k or better.

If you think the charlotte bobcat could get every euro title unbeaten in every euro league out here in the world. Then I say again laughable. Who is to sit here and say which is the premiere league of the world. Nba is the most popular not , a lot of euro teams have better talent.. Usa talent lose the Olympics versus those same players your saying are weak.

Tell you what - if you think there's another league that's superior in quality to the NBA, please make that argument. The simple fact is that the best players in the world end up in that league because, you know, it's the premier basketball league in the world. And I'm not belittling the European players at all, nor the European leagues - they have a fine standard of play and obviously develop great players.

It has nothing to do with stupid mistakes of the managers. It have every thing to do with dictating other ways of play. How many rules will they force down on lower leagues teams throat for sake of fair ness. Then you expect them to stay around? Let be realistic here. Since your dwelling in opinions of your mind when presented the facts.. Your in league 2. So I doubt you give damn about a rules that effect league 4 and below..

I highly doubt you care or give damn because you lined your team with u21 like players and some bought , but dont want anyone to say anything about it. You don't any one to dictate your finances, you don't anyone to touch what you started. But its ok to do that to other's below you in lower divisions.

I am going to demonstrate restraint here, because there's no need to put our valued GMs/EGMs through the hassle that typing my raw impressions would cause. (And even less-valued EGMs like Perpete probably don't deserve that ). All that I will say is that if you think I support this rule because it might keep you down, you're ridiculous - you do a very effective job of keeping yourself down. All I will say is that my entire roster's salary when I promoted from IV was 133k - which you're topping with just your top three players - and you're complaining because you can't buy a player whose individual salary is over 150k? I have to admit, if it were just about keeping you down, I'd much rather let you waste your money on ridiculous salaries like that - it'd be fun to see how much money you could lose trying to keep yourself in III. But too many new teams have bought too many big salary guys and had their team torpedoed to make it worthwhile.

No one can make it but a few, it has nothing to do with how I play. But thats everything to do withlower league teams being able win games in a fair manner. So what ,!! they bought a player for 5 million, who earned that money? who are you and many other to say its not fair and what is fair for lower league teams?. Who put them in charge of lower league finances?

You can buy a player for $20M, if you want, as long as his salary is under 150k/week (though, obviously, if you overbid ridiculously you can be fined or banned, though don't let that stop you!). You can use your precious money however you like, except that in this one particular instance you can't buy players whose salary is simply far too great for your level of competition.

Incidentally, communism would be where all of the arena revenues/ transfer revenues / wages / etc would be allocated evenly throughout the league, and players would be assigned to teams based on what that team needs. It's not a synonym for an economic decision you don't agree with, no matter how many blowhards on talk radio may lead one to believe otherwise.

1S0 Is not enough for any good player on BB in my opinion. Good player start at 250k or better.

You clearly miss that the 150k is the weekly salary limit, not the transfer price limit.

I mean, unless you honestly think that only players with 250k+ salary per week in BB are good players. I think everyone is already quite impressed with darkonza's B3 title, but to think he did it without a single good player (and only one player you couldn't buy yourself, even!) would be really shocking:
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I think you should take pride in the fact that 7 of the 8 players on the B3 champions' championship lineup would sign for your team, but clearly that's not good enough for you.

Your definition of small market in the nba way off man. You don't know why player managers left and went bankrupt. Did they leave a team suicide note. Did BB give them team survey upon leaving .Tell me another mr Perpete. I find it funny.

Some would blame un even tactic strength and not making enough money for player leaving BB. But I guess the wind is blowing to hard in bb staff ears to hear that one complaint.. No one asked for anyone/anything for free.

I'm said simple and easy to understand how can BB dictate lower league team salary to buy and not Everyone elses.. The prices are out of control and none is making any money.. How long as this game been around 26 season so that what 5-7 yrs of BB economy? Ever heard of time line wage increases to afford. Kind of like making $4.50cent a hour when the rent is $2500.oo a month. People are going to illegal mean to keep roof over the head of them../

That's how I see it.. A tax adjustment wont do anything, because again cost to afford is to high.. A small market team is looking to become a big market team( meaning getting more expensive players and better players to gain income in the market) its based on talent and income. Btw no D-league team has become a Nba team. So to compare div team to that is funny. When was the last time the Boston Celtics was a D league team. Only player come up to nba from/ to d-league to regain skills or as player punishment from management staff.

So back to my point a 100K$ player is not good enough with the way the BB economy going in the time line. I don't care what usa did with 150K roster. Those nt plyer get extra training and good managers, and lower div player don't have the luxury, they didn't have pay for them.

Ill say your nba knowledge is not so great, but im no guru either..

But you still didn't answer my question.? How is it false for a team not to take older veteran at a high cost.? you know some d league players get nba salary if they was a lottery pick. you know this right.?

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/9/2014 3:48:05 PM

So back to my point a 100K$ player is not good enough with the way the BB economy going in the time line. I don't care what usa did with 150K roster.

The B3 champion's final lineup, where he won the ultimate club championship in this game, had 7 of his 8 players with salaries under 150k and the other at 167k. I'm going out on a limb here, but I think that being able to purchase players up to the quality of the B3 champions should be more than adequate to withstand the rigors of USA IV.30, though of course some of the finest managers in the game have aspired to the B3 and will never come close to winning IV.30.