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From: Knecht

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Date: 3/2/2015 7:49:44 AM
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As far as I know there is no defensive skill trained with 1-on-1. Or maybe I was just unlucky all the years.

Imo it makes no sense to train 1-on-1 for guards, as the free IS that comes along with Forward Training outweighs the slightly better JS training for guards.

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From: Jamesc1

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Date: 3/2/2015 8:53:53 AM
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I've certainly gotten pops from on OD and ID from training driving, perhaps this was elastic effect though and wasn't directly trained by driving.

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Date: 3/2/2015 9:32:49 AM
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6'0", 18yo ------------- JS -- JR -- OD -- HA -- DR -- PA -- IS -- ID -- RB -- SB
ONE ON ONE (PG/SG) 0,34 ------ ------ 0,38- 0,48 ------ ------ ----- ------ ---
ONE ON ONE (SF/PF) 0,18 ------- ----- 0,43- 0,46 ------- 0,27 ----- ------ ---

This is what gets trained according to Rhyminsimon's training simulator, which uses data from the USA offsite.

Besides that, it shows that it is worth it to train 1v1 Guards if you want to train JS on a tall player, since 1v1 trains JS faster than JS training does for tall players.

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Date: 3/3/2015 6:10:25 AM
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1-on-1 is way overpowered as it is right now. If we added defense training, it would be ridiculous.

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Date: 3/3/2015 9:40:38 AM
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The OD/ID pops I received whilst training Driving must have been as a result of the elastic effect then

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Date: 3/3/2015 10:25:06 AM
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The effect that you're probably referring to is cross-training, which causes a % of training to be attributed to a random unrelated skill. The elastic effect causes certain skills to train slower or faster depending on another skill and the respective levels of the trained and the elastic skill.

From: Phyr
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Date: 3/3/2015 4:27:46 PM
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James what you ate describing is cross training not the elastic effect.

The big difference between the two is that guards trains more dr than ha for short players and more js. Forwards gives is but an equal amount of ha and dr. If limiting ha is important to you, I would train 1v1G and use js-f or is-c ro put is on your guard.

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