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275686.4 in reply to 275686.2
Date: 12/9/2015 9:19:31 PM
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Well done.

I was bored so made a quick excel sheet for calculating the total cost over a longer period of time. Just change the salary

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12tukHX5ByYh4LIUnA_ToEpLIxWKUIo-RTsdGb5s0AYg/pub?output=xlsx

Last edited by Randy Maus at 12/9/2015 9:21:58 PM

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275686.6 in reply to 275686.1
Date: 12/10/2015 12:14:40 PM
Sea Urchins
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Uhm... but this joke is for only few people because right now there are only few trainer L7 with these "expensive" wages.
And sooner than later these trainer will cost more then 1k on the market.

I think that this plan is good until you'll find your perfect coach with a "normal" wage, if you have a budget to buy him. And for 54 week, 4 seasons you are ok with the coach and you can stay away from the market.

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275686.10 in reply to 275686.9
Date: 12/10/2015 8:22:11 PM
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It's a funny exercise.

My 18 y.o MVP has a suggested market value between 750,000 and 1,5 million.
If you want to train him to the point of being a D1-player or the verge of national team play then it's training for 10-12 season.
Say you train him with L6 trainers who you trade out every 4 seasons due to prohibitive costs at a purchase price of 1.2 million (5 million in total or so) .. Expect each trainers salary cost to be around 2.8-4.2 million for a 4 season period then..

I mean - our current market is way undervaluing sunk costs and the value of a player.

Player purchase = 1.5 million
Trainers = 5 million
Trainer Salaries = 8 million

If you sell your guy during his peak age when he should maximize potential and actually help you win something. You are looking at a net loss no matter how you twist and turn it. Feels like a clear cut case of training only being reasonable for your own benefit or selling to managers who don't understand how hard it is to train a player to top level.

(this is not a complaint - I prefer BB to all other sports manager games just because it allows for fun front office ideas rather than click-and-play kiddie stuff).


Last edited by Randy Maus at 12/10/2015 8:22:39 PM

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275686.12 in reply to 275686.10
Date: 12/11/2015 5:00:31 AM
Sea Urchins
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This is a tragic point of view, mate.

You have 2 others training slot and you can make money or built half of your team by yourself.
You can't buy your 18 yo MVP if you don't have 1.5kk that we can suppose you make before that time.
If you have a good team for a good league you make money from attendance, merchandising and TV contract.

I think that a 18yo MVP that costs 1.5 million should be a franchise player that you can do like you want. And you can sell him when his time in that franchise ends (-> franchise rebuilt).


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275686.13 in reply to 275686.12
Date: 12/11/2015 6:27:36 AM
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That was my point - you should only buy an 18 y.o MVP if you want to have an franchise player and then be OK with whatever after your time is over. To get a good player - you'll still have to train him for 10 seasons and playing around the numbers highlight the exponential cost of training (trainer salary and player salary).

My point was more a poke about the complaints about high market price - looking to what goes into the good clearly shows that market prices could be much higher if the true cost of training was known and taken into account.

(even if you cut the trainer cost into 3 parts - you are still looking at a high cost per trainee. I also take issue with the idea that to train one player, you need to farm 6 other players).

Last edited by Randy Maus at 12/11/2015 6:43:33 AM

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275686.14 in reply to 275686.8
Date: 12/14/2015 7:28:10 PM
Monkeykid Maniacs
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What is L4? Superior (I'm making this assumption because it's 4th in the dropdown list)?

If so, I'm seeing a MUCH higher expense, at least on trainers. Looking at Superior trainers starting ~20k salary a week, these easily get bids over 300k before I stop paying attention.

I don't really anticipate being able to afford the signing bonus on anyone cheaper than the guy I got (currently up to 47443) anytime soon since pretty much every trainer I bid on under 40k starting that is at minimum the same level, the bid quickly shoots over 100k :p

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