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54277.4 in reply to 54277.3
Date: 10/22/2008 10:16:11 PM
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PGs in BB are greatly underestimated by many.


Care to elaborate? Just curious as I have 3 key PG's now who will be my training focus for a bit longer.... I dont want to convert them all into SG's but I do need to give them more JS.... is there any reason I would be better off forgoing this for more passing? How would that help me?

I believe that on average PG's take too many shots and it cant just be down to the quality and the reason you need a PG with high JS/JR is because if the other matchups on the court are equal the he will just end up having a go himself....

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54277.6 in reply to 54277.4
Date: 10/24/2008 8:27:01 AM
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in my opinion a balanced player is always better.

example: if his jumpshot is far superior to his passing, he wil shoot all the time. Should he get a decent defender on him, your team will not score much.
If his passing is very dominant, he will not try to shoot, but rather pass the ball all the time. If he has an average defender on him, or even a weaker, this will cost you points as your other players might be struggling against better defense.

If he has equal skills for both shot and passing, he can choose, and is likely to pick the best option most of the times.

Much depends on your opponent ofcourse, but with a balanced player your team will be able to adapt to most situations.

So I'd try to train him in all his major skills as equally as possible.

EDITED: what I think he meant by underestimating PGs is that most managers will rely on their SG for outside, and PF and C for inside play and see the SF to glue the team together and fill in for the gaps in either outside or inside while they neglect the importance of the PG in any case, which is not so smart, especially with outside focus, but also a little when playing inside.

Last edited by Lord of Doom at 10/24/2008 8:29:50 AM

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54277.8 in reply to 54277.1
Date: 10/25/2008 2:20:42 AM
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I know PGs are suppose to assist more than shoot but my 2 PGs have been quite selfish suddenly with them preferring to score than pass. I have been training Jump Shot for Guards. Is this affecting the way my PGs play? If I train them in passing and their passing gets higher than their shooting skills will they decide to pass instead? Or should I just train them into SGs?


So is it fair to say then that perhaps the GE needs to be tweaked to further differentiate the roles of the SG/PG? I guess the same can be true of the C/PF role?

Overall too many C's playing makeshift PF's and too many SG's playing makeshift PG.

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54277.9 in reply to 54277.8
Date: 10/25/2008 5:10:48 AM
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well, if a coach wants to play without PG and PF, and wants to play 2 SG and 2 C, then who will say he will do a bad thing?

Maybe in the NBA they should try to play a team like this: 1PG , 2SG and 2C for outside oriented teams, and 2PG and 3C for inside oriented teams.
I wonder what would happen. :รพ

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54277.10 in reply to 54277.9
Date: 10/26/2008 1:00:49 PM
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Every player on the floor is equally capable of lighting it up on any given night. Factors effect his performance obviously, but just because he is a pg doesn't mean he can't score (look at Chris Paul, or Mike Bibby) some are offensively challenged ( like Jason Kidd or my own teams Mate Mistic) but don't let the pg fool you. ( Look at my team, everyone (except Mate of course) usually has at least ten points and rarely has over 25. The other pg usually has at least 20)

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54277.12 in reply to 54277.11
Date: 10/26/2008 11:08:53 PM
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I doubt that is going to happen lol. That would totally beat the purpose of having forwards. But I don't see much purpose of forwards in the real game except to have them play both inside and outside (eg. SF plays outside on a 3-2 Zone D but plays outside on a 2-3 Zone D and PF stands inline with the SG and SF for 1-3-1). But still I don't think it is possible to play without a player with the role of PG because PGs are suppose to start the play. But still I don't quite like the prospect of them shooting so much. It makes them look like a second SG or something.



Perhaps we are all missing certain ingredients of differences in skill levels that mean the GE still feels that PG's are better positioned to shoot?

Perhaps we need Legendary JS on our SG and Legendary passing on our PG (with awful JS) to make sure he has no option but to pass it?!

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54277.13 in reply to 54277.12
Date: 10/27/2008 5:46:20 AM
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well, I like PGs who go for the shot when they are left open.

If my opponent's coach is stupid enough to tell his players my PG is only for passing the ball, and thus can play double defense on my other players, then my PG is free to go for it himself.

Last few games I played my SG at PG. He simply has his PG skills as high as my regular PG, and his JS is way up high. As expected he did shoot a lot, and he also scored most points. Should I have put him at SG, it would probably be the same, except that now, I had an other scoring machine extra in the game on my SG position.
It's all about what you want you players to do.

I also somethimes play with 3 centers when I play inside offense. It didn't make me look bad.

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