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97461.4 in reply to 97461.1
Date: 6/17/2009 5:38:46 AM
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You won the game in the end, right?

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97461.5 in reply to 97461.4
Date: 6/17/2009 5:42:17 AM
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did you read my full post at all? this isnt a thread about whether i won or lost. I am not angry, sad or upset. I want to try and understand the game better and learn. why does my PF with tremendous IS suddenly shoot 0.39% this season instead off 0.5% last season. How my opponent can get strong IS. when he isnt superiour than my team. and all the other questions I asked in my post because I am trying to understand the game and learn.

thanks again for reading my full post and trying to help me understood the questions i have

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97461.6 in reply to 97461.5
Date: 6/17/2009 6:04:38 AM
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I have looked at your game.
You have 3 players that played all 48 minutes. You have 1 player playing 46 minutes and one 36 minutes. Players get tired and doesn't perform as well as if they got some breaks.
If you look at gauson's last 3 games you can see the other teams tried harder than him. This probably means he has alot of enthusiasm this increases his performance. His tactic was look inside this increases his rating for inside shooting.
I hope this can help you understand the ratings better.

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97461.7 in reply to 97461.5
Date: 6/17/2009 6:05:20 AM
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I read full of your post, and I am glad to see, that your trying to learn, though I really can not see why your trying that. Anyway, You can`t learn whole of the game, even when BBs would explain you that. I am not watched your games, but to your question, there may be several answers. For example: Opponents had good mood, cause they won last game, you choosed wrong tactic, different enthusiasms, there were some changes in your team recently, what made your players more effective/uneffective, less audience(also if 0.5% was in home games, but the 0.39% was in away game), and then the random factor(if there is it). There are more of these factors, but I just don`t know more.

Hopefully that helped.

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97461.8 in reply to 97461.5
Date: 6/17/2009 6:07:41 AM
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the wages arent everything. a lower wage doesnot necessarily make a player worse in each category. actually as much the player is all around, wage goes down for same level of attributes. so maybe his players are trained for one specific attribute and it didnot boost the wages. it is possible. even more, may be those players are stronger against you, if you are vulnerable to their strenghts.

of course this may not be the case, the game is just random sometimes. also game engine tends to create some action, entertainment.

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97461.9 in reply to 97461.8
Date: 6/17/2009 6:18:25 AM
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perhaps that is the case, but than i would like to know. I want to become the best manager or close to that and not to gamble whether I win or not. If i want to feel lucky and win something i go play the lottery. It could be you are right his players are single attributed players. but from what I have seen on the transfer market, shouldnt the salary be higher than? because single skilled trained players with extreme high ratings have extreme high salaries? or does this only work for forwards?

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97461.10 in reply to 97461.7
Date: 6/17/2009 6:22:34 AM
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i know all these things. and yes these things do matter but that is why i posted this message. My 0.39% was in my last nights home game. The defence or offence wasnt wrong. I would be the first to admit that when I picked the wrong one. That is why I said in the first line to read my whole post and that i needed some serious help. I know all the random things that can influence the game. I have lost in the past before and I could explain why. This season I loose and I cant explain it. Not following any off the reasons you gave me.

I didnt ask for someone to explain me the full game engine, and yeah there is some randomness towards the game engine, but why play a management game and train players for years and years for the game to be still a lottery whether you win a game or not? playing the lottery is alot easier and takes alot less time trust me...

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97461.11 in reply to 97461.6
Date: 6/17/2009 6:28:04 AM
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yes you are spot on. My players played too many minutes, but I won the game in the last 2 quarters after being many points behind at half time? So how could fatigue be a factor?

I tied a few games this season too. I mentioned in my post I think that I am fully aware that his enthusiasm could have been better, but he CTed (i think) too early in the season and only possibly once or twice TIEed more than I did and I didnt CTed. So his enthusiasm couldnt have been much better than mine and what happened to home court advantage?

IMO and with my knowledge, the salaries he has dont add up to a 60% IS the first 2 quarters. Especially knowing I have a tremendous ID guy and a respectable ID guy. For our league that is quite decent.

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97461.12 in reply to 97461.11
Date: 6/17/2009 6:33:37 AM
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Being after-wise, you had the wrong tactics against him both offensively and defensively and also lost the offensive flow by a lot. So regarding this, I think it is a mystery you won. I also don't think the differences in wages are huge, and your point guard has a very small salary, I think the PG is the most important guy to influence the score, but that is my opinion.

!zazhigai!
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97461.13 in reply to 97461.11
Date: 6/17/2009 6:42:04 AM
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Yes maybe he CTed or the other TIEed. But if you say he CTed okay, but it was the first game. His enthusiasm falls to 2.5 correct me if i am wrong it goes up a little to lets say 3 and then have 5 after the the first TIE, I still believe he had a little more enthusiasm than you, but let us put that to a side for now.
One thing I may have forgot to say is that the team ratings doesn't affect eachother it doesn't matter if you had a legendary ID it doesn't affect his IS rating. Of course it does affect your own ID rating.
The reason that you won the last 2 quarters may have been that his PF and SG had alot of fouls, one thing is all the FTs, but they begin to defend more poorly. Your SG and PF scored alot of points.

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97461.14 in reply to 97461.12
Date: 6/17/2009 6:47:05 AM
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finally an answer i can work with. i have read threads in the past and have read more often that a PG influences the score. But I can find nowhere in the rules how he influences the score. before someone tells me noone knows, I know that, but there must be guidelines/directions in some way so you know what you are training and need to train.

How can my tactics be wrong? Man to man means one guy defends the other, considering our players were equal in many ways on the pitch, i dont think my defensive tactics were wrong. They didnt match his inside attack, but I already confirmed that, still doesnt explain his strong IS rating imo. My offensive tactics are in my opinion not wrong either. He played man to man, so he didnt gain any or just a small benefit against my offensive tactics. I have more than decent shooting skills. Ok nothing sensational, but he cant have amazing shooting skills and amazing defensive skills. The salaries just dont add up to that.

My offensive flow indeed is not that high, but that is one off the things I dont understand. Offensive flow has to do with passing skills right? For the whole team? please correct me when I am wrong.

My 5 players on the pitch had these levels off passing:

Huberman: respectable
Guardia: respectable
Tavares: strong
Yilong: atrocious (not seen many PF with good passing skills)
Ebertz: respectable (from what I have seen on Transfer markets this is quite high for a Center)

Comparing PF and Centers and guards on the Transfer market, I dont think (with exception of yilong) my passing and thus my offensive flow, especially for the strength of my league is that much worse than my league opponents passing skills)


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