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From: dimac

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173944.40 in reply to 173944.37
Date: 2/22/2011 5:32:20 AM
The Black Ice
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For sure, we have a deal

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173944.41 in reply to 173944.36
Date: 2/22/2011 7:21:33 AM
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Thanks a lot BUG, I lost Italia game because of you..

What happened?

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173944.42 in reply to 173944.39
Date: 2/22/2011 7:28:28 AM
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I was talking about this season tournament,where I see Czech team have very few chances to make an upset.
The best teams don't consider shotblocking a primary skill exactly as you;jump range instead is an important skill for outside shooting efficiency
The weak point of your philosophy,in my opinion,is that you need much more time than the other nations to have competitive players at top level,so I don't know if you can reach a sufficient number of top level players all together to try to defeat the top team(when one player became really competitive,the previous players became yet older)

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173944.44 in reply to 173944.43
Date: 2/22/2011 7:45:15 AM
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My defence tactic was 3-2 zone but I played MtM..

I understand your anger,especially seeing Quattrucci numbers in the game

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173944.45 in reply to 173944.42
Date: 2/22/2011 7:54:22 AM
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Yes, our chances this season are not big, but it wasn't our goal this season to make great success even if last season we made quite a good run in Consolation Tournament. But group with France and Germany is very tough and our chance to go to next stage were about 20% from the begining and TIE-CT lost to Cyprus got us to even bigger troubles.
I don't think you find a week point. Players can play on NT very long, skills starts dropping at 33 (maybe slightly at 32), I think best players can play on NT up to his age of 35. If you look at our roster the oldest player is 28 (still training – last season 4 pops, we will see how many this season) and second one 26. Our NT is still quite young. To have about 20 great players you need average of 2 in every year starting from age 25 to 35.
The problem of our NT is somewhere else but don’t have direct correlation to my philosophy. We have very few well trained players with 10 or 10+ potential and it looks like potential 9 could be problem in near future for top level of NT’s. And second problem is that we don’t have enough managers that are ready to train these players for our NT, second part of my philosophy is Czech NT for players only from czech teams (at the moment all players from our roster play in czech teams, except from 18 yo, but there are some players near NT in foreign teams).

From: Marot

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173944.46 in reply to 173944.45
Date: 2/22/2011 8:01:15 AM
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Push the ball is a weak tactic to achieve something important on NT's.

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173944.47 in reply to 173944.45
Date: 2/22/2011 8:01:48 AM
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I don't think you find a week point. Players can play on NT very long, skills starts dropping at 33 (maybe slightly at 32), I think best players can play on NT up to his age of 35. If you look at our roster the oldest player is 28 (still training – last season 4 pops, we will see how many this season) and second one 26. Our NT is still quite young. To have about 20 great players you need average of 2 in every year starting from age 25 to 35.
The problem of our NT is somewhere else but don’t have direct correlation to my philosophy. We have very few well trained players with 10 or 10+ potential and it looks like potential 9 could be problem in near future for top level of NT’s. And second problem is that we don’t have enough managers that are ready to train these players for our NT, second part of my philosophy is Czech NT for players only from czech teams (at the moment all players from our roster play in czech teams, except from 18 yo, but there are some players near NT in foreign teams).

The point is that,at 32 years old,your player will have the same primary skills of the other national teams?
Because if you can't have higher primary skills before your player become older,you will however always have a disadvantage that I don't know if you can compensate.And another problem,is that you have to findo manager that want to train players forever,not stopping at 25-26 years old,and I don't know if you can find that

However,I wish you good luck,but I don't see your plan working as in your desires

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173944.48 in reply to 173944.47
Date: 2/22/2011 8:12:36 AM
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Yes it can be a problem to find teams that will be training old players as it's problem to find teams for training about 24 yo. But there are some managers with national feeling and I hope there will be even more in future.
I think primaries can be high enough about age of 28, best players can manage it even earlier. Later they can stay in NT just with stamina, FT and GS training. I don't expect someone training primaries or secondaries to 32 or even longer. But I think many other NT ends with primaries (due to salary or potential) before 25 and then they have no space for secondary trainings.

As I wrote somewhere earlier there is still possibility that I will end my NT coach career without success. I'm ready for that, we will see.

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173944.49 in reply to 173944.45
Date: 2/22/2011 8:13:48 AM
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I don't think you find a week point. Players can play on NT very long, skills starts dropping at 33 (maybe slightly at 32), I think best players can play on NT up to his age of 35. If you look at our roster the oldest player is 28 (still training – last season 4 pops, we will see how many this season) and second one 26. Our NT is still quite young. To have about 20 great players you need average of 2 in every year starting from age 25 to 35.


i think that is the advantage of this philosophie, because it is easier for managers to obtain training them without the need of farms - but you still need enthusiastic managers for doing the off position training.

But at least when i could talk for me, i like to train multiskilled players like my PF, who probadly would fit your requirements ;)

@kareen: about the main skill with 32 no he wouldn't have them, because they cap earlier but i believe he won't be that far away because it isn't easy to train a 400k+ C, and also the cap works a bit into it. Personally this strategy could work, it isn't easy

From: rwystyrk

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173944.50 in reply to 173944.46
Date: 2/22/2011 8:17:24 AM
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I don't think so in general, there is much more stranger setups even in latest stages of WC/EC. But we (me, you and some other managers) discussed it earlier, but probably you forgot it. We usually have played it because it has fit to our current roster best in most situation yet. The time of few other tactics will come quite soon, but probably Push the Ball will be always one of the option which we will use from time to time.

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