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181900.40 in reply to 181900.1
Date: 4/25/2011 7:13:02 PM
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Zone 3-2 works
Zone 2-3 don't works

FIX THIS NOW!!

From: Marot
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Date: 4/26/2011 5:33:19 PM
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Agujerico FG 3FG FT PTS

SG A. Conway 10 - 18 3 - 5 4 - 6 27

SF S. Schurrer 9 - 16 2 - 2 3 - 6 23

PF I. Siñeriz 9 - 11 0 - 1 0 - 2 18


Agujerico playing with less effort.

Agujerico ended with 29 assist.


I'll bring more games to show how the 2-3 works...


All the inside teams when they play a game are wishing the other teams sets a 2-3 zone ¡

From: Marot

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Date: 4/26/2011 5:46:34 PM
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Erhnam Djinn playing with less effort but playing at home...


From: Monkeybiz

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Date: 4/26/2011 7:32:30 PM
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I lost despite team ratings show that my outside shooting have smashed them and my ID was better than his IS

I would have won if I M2Med rather than 2-3ed


Last edited by Monkeybiz at 4/27/2011 1:12:40 AM

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Date: 4/26/2011 10:45:57 PM
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You had 26 fouls which let them go to the line 36 times

The fouls are a product of the tactic. Most of the fouls was against opposing SG/PG as they drove in and called against my guards

Your starting PG fouled out.


So that means by outside scoring would have been even higher if he didn't foul out.

You also got outrebounded by 15


And yet I had more shot attempts than he did

I don't think playing M2M would have helped since you would have had even worse ID and RB against their inside attack.


Incorrect. Playing a M2M would mean I get smacked a bit on the ID front but as seen by the team ratings my outside scoring would have made up for any loss in ID as his OD got torched

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181900.47 in reply to 181900.44
Date: 4/27/2011 1:49:28 AM
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personally i don't see the this examples as arguments against 2-3, if you don't say that 2-3 zone should leads to automatic wins.

Both games was away, betwen teams of roughly the same strength. Both team was very close, while the 2-3 miss the hca. And depending on the matchup rating, i would say at least game one was would be a win in the majority of cases for the 2-3.

here some examples of mine:
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Btw: OD wasn't high at my big playing 2-3, Radeke has a 1 and Alabora a 4 - only Dachsbau could defend outside. The blocking skills from Radkeke i don't know, but Ferda have 11(and he blocks enough to pay the extra price) and Dachs have an 8.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 4/27/2011 1:56:25 AM

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181900.48 in reply to 181900.47
Date: 4/27/2011 2:13:07 AM
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Both games was away

The first game was played at a neutral venue as it was a PL game. Also, the team ratings would have already taken into account HCA and enthusiasm.

Both team was very close,

The teams were not close at all as demonstrated by team ratings. My ID matched/better than opponent's IS (strong medium ID vs strong low IS). My OS on the otherhand beat their OD by at least 2 whole levels (strong low OS vs average low OD)


I'm just providing further game evidence that 2-3 zone doesn't work as it should.

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Date: 4/27/2011 2:16:56 AM
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The first game was played at a neutral venue as it was a PL game. Also, the team ratings would have already taken into account HCA and enthusiasm.


hca is bigger then the reflect in the rating, there i am pretty sure.

The teams were not close at all as demonstrated by team ratings. My ID matched/better than opponent's IS (strong medium ID vs strong low IS). My OS on the otherhand beat their OD by at least 2 whole levels (strong low OS vs average low OD)


I'm just providing further game evidence that 2-3 zone doesn't work as it should.


i would rather say, that team ratings aren't always that clear as a evidence you showed.

From: Marot

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Date: 4/27/2011 7:15:22 AM
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personally i don't see the this examples as arguments against 2-3, if you don't say that 2-3 zone should leads to automatic wins.

Both games was away, betwen teams of roughly the same strength. Both team was very close, while the 2-3 miss the hca. And depending on the matchup rating, i would say at least game one was would be a win in the majority of cases for the 2-3.

here some examples of mine:
(182276.35)

Btw: OD wasn't high at my big playing 2-3, Radeke has a 1 and Alabora a 4 - only Dachsbau could defend outside. The blocking skills from Radkeke i don't know, but Ferda have 11(and he blocks enough to pay the extra price) and Dachs have an 8.


1- Game you win against 2-3

2- Brezel plays with 3-2 so it's not a good example

3- Maybe it could be an example, but your center won the game scoring 4-4 in 3PT, you won this game because you did a good attack more than a good defense.

4- Last example shows that 2-3 just is weak even playing you with 3-2 you scored like the hell against his 2-3. This example shows how bad is to defense with 2-3.

Last edited by Marot at 4/27/2011 7:19:51 AM

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