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Clearly, I must have the best luck when it comes to drafts thus far in my BB career.

Very first season when I joined at the end, I blindly drafted this guy in the 3rd round: (19243194). A 7 potential 18 year old with ~3500 starting salary.

The next season, when I actually spent money on the draft, I got this guy with the 13th overall pick: (20740806). 18 year old 5/4 guy, and was my first choice. And I wasn't in a league with all bots; we had I think 8 total human managers in that D5 league.

The next season I had the 16th pick, and got an 18 year old MVP potential guy with ~3500 salary. (Can't link cause he's on TL). I sold him cause I didn't have any extra space to train him. He was my 2nd overall preference.

Then this season (in D4) I had the 15th pick, and I got my 2nd overall preference. This guy (23471588), 18 year old HOF potential, ~5K salary.

Now, other than the first season, for all of them I spent probably 200-300K in scouting. Enough to do the scouting combine, and then focus on the 18 year old prospects that had the appropriate height for what I wanted to train. Looking back on most of the draft histories, the majority of teams in the divisions where I drafted got one of their first 3 preferences in the first round.

Was it risky, and did I get lucky, sure. But I personally value home drafted players a lot, and would even train up decently skilled yet lower potential guys. Well trained, with good secondaries, these type of players can be important role players for a long time, and their home drafted status will return some of their salary via merchandise.

sometimes u are lucky. sometimes u aren't. sometimes the draftpool of your league is deep. sometimes even the first pick is... not as good as he maybe should be. sometimes the draft gets you a future international player, sometimes, especially if youpick late, you get 3xbenchwarmers.

the question is: what did you expect? how much money youinvested? how much players you scouted? how much of them you invited to you trainingcamp and interviewed them? how you sorted your list - skill -potential - age? did you look at the boxscore if you had to decide between two players? and again: what did you expect???

i'm here since season3. season4 was the first season with potential introduced. a little overwiew over my first round picks:

season3 - pick16 - Jürgen Laasphe (3164819) - sold at the beginning of season6 for $ 1.592k
season4 - pick14(!) - Rickleff Distler (4599748) - still on my team. FRANCHISE PLAYER
season5 - pick12 - Jan Frackenpohl (5766301) - sold a season later for $ 1k
season6 - pick12 - Klaus-Erik Krefeld (6741659) - sold a few days later for $ 40k
season7 - pick12 - Jörg Linke (8052099) - sold a few days later for $ 85k
season8 - pick13 - Sakis Karpouzopoulos (9335913) - sold a few days later for $ 52k
season9 - pick4 - Stephan Kameke (10715874) - sold a few days later for $ 172k
season10 - pick15 - Robby Mammensohn (11896139) - sold at the begonning of the next season for $ 709k
season11 - pick15(!) - Patrick Platthaus (13312224) - still on my team - best help defender of my squad
season12 - pick4 - Archibal Jericho (14718843) - sold him for a small amount (transfer history deleted)
season13 - pick15 - Dirk Dühren (16579850) - sold him 2 season later for $ 301k (big mistake, i should've gave him time to develop)
season14 - pick 14 - Bernd Kerschhofer (17900550) - sold him 2 seasons later for $ 500k (another mistake)
season15 - pick7 - Dieter Augsburger (19410934) - still on my team - great sf/pf prospect (194760.219)
season16 - pick7 - Knut Neustadt (20908741) - sold a few days later for $ 2k
season17 - pick8 - Fritz Piening (22633698) - fired
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season18 - pick6 - Marvin Alexander Lezius (23873587) - 18yo $ 3 682 perenial allstar
season18 - pick22 - Manuel Pinassen (23873588) - 19yo $ 4 791 perenial allstar
season18 - pick38 - Eriq Leon Granados (23873551) - 19yo $ 3 252 superstar
all three have some weaknesses, but dont look that bad, i think about keep em all3 ;-)

i'm not the best manager in the bb world by far, looking at my franchise and transfer history. but the dream of playing b3 (what means winning the league or cup) with a couple of own draftees in my rotation lives on ;-)

In my first year in BB, I got two perrennial all stars without spending even one penny on the draft, and my team was 5th that season, so I got somewhere around pick #11 overall.

So to spend nearly $300K this past season on scouting, I expected to get one high potential player that would be leading my team many seasons from now. I don't feel like I got that. I got one player with star potential, then a role model and a 6th man potential.

When I say my draft was a flop, I guess it would be fair to say it was a flop compared to what I wanted or expected, but overall, I'm sure I got exactly what I deserved being the championship of the league with last pick.

More than anything, I guess I just felt like I would get better in this draft becaue I was in a league with almost all bots.

The problem (which has always existed in the draft) is that generally, there isn't enough talent to go around. The ABBL draft has given us trash for so many seasons now.

I can understand 2nd and 3rd round talent being average at best, but the top half of the first round should be decent pickups for most teams.

The most popular suggestion is to make 19 year olds useful. As it currently stands, half the draft is rendered useless because 19 year olds are thrown on the scrap heap. Give 19 year olds a slight skill boost (say strong/proficient) in skills and you'll see happier people.

A very good idea! What's the point of generating so many draftees, if you know at least 90% will go straight to the bin. Another idea was to give each draftee at least 2, maybe 3 guaranteed years before they cap, regardless of their potential. This would mean that all players below starter potential don't get thrown away as soon as their owners see them, and the majority below 4 ball.
or even a slight bias for better draftees in higher divisions, i.e.
DV max allstar potential
DIV maz peren. allstar
DIII max superstar
DII max mvp
I think many people invest in the draft process at BB, cause it's an exciting thing in real life. They keep reminding us that BB is just a game, and therefore adheres to its own rules. But it's only because of the real game and NBA in particular that people's imagination is able to turn BB, which is basically numbers into a story.

I would be in favor of higher leagues getting slightly better skill sets for their draftees, but to limit the lower levels to all-star potential would not be in favor of at all. If you did that, the lower level teams would be at a much bigger disadvantage to being able to move up to the highest levels because the trainees they got while in D5 would not be players they could keep and use to lead the team in D2 or D1. So they'd be training certain players just to get out of D5, then have to dump those players and start with fresh draftees once they reach D2 or maybe even D3.

Take this comment for what it's worth considering I've never played higher than D5 yet and have no real facts about what kind of players dominate at the higher levels. But I do know there is a reason that people pay so much more for a MVP or HOF potential player than they do the all-star players.

well.
1st: like some others already said: your player isnt that bad. i like hus skillset. he can an important player in your rotation, if you give him time.
2nd: he was your 1st preference. not knowing the skillset- just salary, age & potential - lets take a look what was drafted AFTER your Johnnie Dylan:

Luther Portillo (23478518)
David Newman (23478541)

so maybe you missed 2 better prospects, which is either bad luck or bad scouting of yours, dude.
but anyway: your player is a nice pick, sure higher potential would be fine, but he is definitely a good draft worth to get trained.

How do you know he was my first preference?

He shouldn't have been my first preference. I'm double checking that now.

i'm a freakin magican ;-)

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/407/draftSummary.aspx

I see now how you know he was my first preference. Honestly, I've made some kind of mistake or the ge made some kind of mistake, because that player should not have been my #1 ranked player going into the draft.

I'm starting to believe that maybe I set my draft order, then forgot to hit SET or whatever it is to save it. I've done that before, so that could be my issue here.

Thanks for the info. Probably just stupidity on my part.

Like I said, most people in D5 and D4 get one of their first 3 preferences. His league everyone got their first preference.

I still think it's a mistake to sell him, but to each his own.

And I completely disagree with the idea that the max potential of draftees should be affected by the league they're drafted from. Higher division managers have many challenges, but they already have a lot of benefits. Now they should get a higher percentage of valuable trainees? Allowing them to sell for more money? I just don't see any reason for it.

If it seems like the higher divisions don't produce many quality prospects, I'd guessit's just a factor of the fewer total draftees there. There's only ~24 18 year olds in each top league draft (assume ~50% of the class is 18). In contrast, there are 6144 18 year olds in D5 (24*256). Given that good 18 year olds with good potential are pretty rare, by chance they'll land in the largest leagues, not the upper leagues.