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189547.41 in reply to 189547.36
Date: 7/19/2011 1:00:46 PM
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-> if I'd want to give you a real life example, Boris Diaw comes to mind - point forward, startign as a playmaking guard in the league, now playing power forward and center for Charlotte Bobcats (team I follow a lot so don't try to argue what kind of player he is now).


You said it yourself... playing PG in the past, playing F (you say PF/C) NOW. What he was back then is unimportant, obviously he trained some inside skills and is now a better option on a forward spot. NBA.com lists him as Forward, wikipedia as Small Forward/Power Forward - so "F" too.

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189547.42 in reply to 189547.33
Date: 7/19/2011 9:45:49 PM
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I'm not sure if you were around to watch the NBA in the early 80s, but there is no doubt in my mind that Magic could have been listed at and succeeded at any position on the court. Magic had all the skills needed to play any position on the court. I would lump Bird in there as well, except he wasn't really quick enough to defend guards on the perimeter (or forwards on the block, for that matter). I didn't make any comments about how he did in that game 6, just that he started at center on the night. I remember watching it.

As far as Diaw goes, he is another excellent example. Whether or not he is good or not is immaterial. The fact that he has a skill set that allows him to play PG and/or C is the point. Not sure if you play fantasy basketball, but Diaw qualified at PG, F, and C as recently as two seasons ago in Yahoo leagues. Not sure about last year.

On a much lesser scale (say take it down from Italia Serie A to Viet Nam division 3.16) I played both PG and C in high school. I grew seven inches before my senior year in high school and played Center on defense. I didn't lose any coordination during my growth spurt (didn't have much to lose, I guess) so continued to play PG on offense. So it is possible, without question.

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189547.44 in reply to 189547.43
Date: 7/20/2011 1:18:13 AM
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You missed the point with Diaw. Even if player is not on top level, he can be equal for each position, but 2nd or 3rd best in squad for each of them, so he can spent just few minutes on court.

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189547.46 in reply to 189547.45
Date: 7/20/2011 10:03:45 AM
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Diaw has the skills, he doesn't have the desire (that can't and shouldn't be simulated in BB btw)

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189547.48 in reply to 189547.41
Date: 7/21/2011 6:58:26 AM
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PG/C - (10859831)
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And his position is suggested PG when he's 7'0'' I'm pretty sure there are a few other players like him.
And Arvydas Sabonis in his early years (before gitting injured and slower) was quite a good PG/C. Later in his career he was a center who passed better than most of the PGs..

Last edited by Phantum at 7/21/2011 7:02:37 AM

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189547.49 in reply to 189547.48
Date: 7/21/2011 7:19:24 AM
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Arvydas didn't injured that early, he played PG in youth squad as professional he always was an center with great court vision and the tools to use i

(edit: Chamberlain, played PG at the globetrotters so he wasn't that bad either in that direction)

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189547.50 in reply to 189547.49
Date: 7/21/2011 8:04:50 AM
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He was overgrown PG with a skillset of both PG and C - great handler, passer, decent rebounder with a shot range of a guard. He had a skillset but later on was unable to use it because of his body. So in the skills aspect he was a PG with low OD and a C..

And well he had a lot of injuries..

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189547.51 in reply to 189547.41
Date: 7/21/2011 8:08:20 AM
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I just don't get what adding complexity to the position label for players adds. Once you know what the skills are, does the position label really matter? I mean, if a SG can also play SF, even though his skill set says he's most effective as a SG, who cares what his label is? I play players out of their "natural position" all the time and I don't need a label to tell I can. The skills are more important than the label, a label that's too complicated could add more confusion than clarity. My two cents.

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