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Gaining less money means that you have better players. Simple as that. BBB that is the place that i will compete with an Italian team or Spanish, is related to 0,3% . Do you really care about that???

hey man, why don't you read every single word that I write? :)

and don't tell me we're not going to face up, 'cause if it may be right talking about a possible match, it's not correct to say that related to the market, we daily face up there.

I don't even care bout B3, I even don't know if I'll never play it.
what I do care about is the TL where you have an advantage compared to us.

I'll try to explain better my point of view, so I take B3 semi-finalist djembe who is not at my level, he is stronger than a team like mine, and he's probably better than some serie A teams since he reaches B3 semis:

in Nigeria he has really few rivals, let's say 2-3 but no one of those is really getting some trouble for his championship's winning. consequently he has no problem to accumulate money (coming from a "always-sold out-arena"), he receive bout the same merchandising of a top level Italian team, and not so less from TV, with the huge difference he can do whatever he preferes on the market 'cause he has a market power so much higher than we have.

I repeat that I don't care about B3, it's not a crusade against "you, people of small countries", but it's only an objective analysis between our income and market power and yours.

What you are saying its are facts but i am having hard time to see how we have an advantage over you. I really cant understand how you will have more more fun or what else you want reducing our income. Really.

Many times I do have to get pissed for an auction I lost against (example) a Vietnamese user who had recently joined or joined several seasons after me.

What makes me irritated is that I don't understand why a user that subscribed long after me should have the same market power that I have after several competitive seasons.

Many times I do have to get pissed for an auction I lost against (example) a Vietnamese user who had recently joined or joined several seasons after me.

What makes me irritated is that I don't understand why a user that subscribed long after me should have the same market power that I have after several competitive seasons.

don't forget that they even sell those players ;) To people like you, so the market impact is close to nothing on the Tl and maybe a little bit on staff.

And you are really pissed of by the very few teams, who haven't even the luck of active enemys?

I've been outbidden by Italian or Spanish teams of 4. or 5. leage soooooooooooooo many times I can't even count. They seem to have millions and millions of $$$...

I've been outbidden by Italian or Spanish teams of 4. or 5. leage soooooooooooooo many times I can't even count. They seem to have millions and millions of $$$...

Or they just value players differently to you....or they are maybe playing a shorter term game.

I think a lot of the complaints that generate stem from very serious players of the game (makes sense - why would casual users be as vocal?) I would therefore suggest that players who have less care about their team (the players that perhaps hand on heart know they arent going to be playing this in 2-3 yrs/seasons) they will bid up to buy unique players at any cost (same as they do for lvl 7 trainers) Longer term planners quite rightly refuse to get drawn into a bid war and have to step down and so I dont think this is just a big country v small country argument it is a long term v short term clash that we all have to deal with.

All your proving is what we said thousand times on this thread. Big countries have much more competition. So WHAT? Is that our problem????? You are stacked man. All the posters that are coming from big countries (mainly Spain and Italy) repeating the same things, but you are failing to see our arguments. Please open your mind a little.

As i said again Cyprus is a lovely place to live, and we have beautiful women too. You can move here and ''enjoy'' 1 almost dead community.

ok, my fault has been posting here. I have thought people could understand me, but Game Masters from Cyprus are too smart for me and my arguments. sorry I won't disturb you anymore ;)

I've been outbidden by Italian or Spanish teams of 4. or 5. leage soooooooooooooo many times I can't even count. They seem to have millions and millions of $$$...

The difference is that an Italian,Spansih,French,Poland,German,ecc...,everyone who can outbid you in an auction that come from a competitive division of a country(as the thai Gm rightly pointed out,the problem is not strictly the size of a contry,but as general rule, bigger is the country,stronger is the competitivity in their various divisions),had to sell their trainees,and if he doesn't train him "well" to send them on the market,he cannot improve his teams and also if a user doesn't sell his trainees,for the growth of their salaries,he will have a very short power on the market(then there are the cheaters,but they live in every part of the BB world)
Who can outbid you that come from a low competitive division of a country,has the money to act in the market,without selling their better players,because he has enormous incomes for his expenses(he hes also much more money to spend on the staff).The improving of these teams can happen without necessarily the improving of the "user's skills",mantaining the league very few competitive,because they can improve the team only buying some players on the market,and also them have to wait some week before raising the money to do that,maintaining nearly the samel level of competitivity of the league,anc consequentely the same great economic situation,that is exploited from the few who has decent "user's skills",that will accumulate an enormous advantage,and they'll have much more power on the market,having an always much more stronger team than a user who plays in a top division of the competitive countries

The problem is at all the levels for the users of the biggest/more competitive countries that have to face off the users of the small/less competitive countries on the market(and for who has the ability/fortune to go in the BBB)

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/19/2010 12:53:35 PM

I don't care if the guy who outbid me comes from a small or big country. I don't care how he got the money. I just have to find another player or get more money. I guess that's one of the aims of the game: make the best of what you've got and get. All the guys in my league have the same problems with the prices people pay for players. So it all comes down to "them against me" again.

I don't care if the guy who outbid me comes from a small or big country. I don't care how he got the money. I just have to find another player or get more money.

It's a your tought,surely repsectable.But a thing is that you play "against them" without someone who has clearly great advantages on you,another thing is that you have worst economic possibilities of some others
On the market you play against people all over the world,some of them has great advantages.These users will face you in the market,directly or not(rising the prices of the players,they however will affect your economic power on the market).So you(intended as all the users) should care this problem(the economic balance of the game in the world),in my opinion

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/19/2010 1:54:01 PM

should care this problem

Or you could move on and just take note of the advantages and disadvantages to being in a big country. Then realize that everyone in your country is in the same boat and think about how you can make those advantages and disadvantages work for you.

I still do not get what competing against small countries on the transfer market has to do with anything. Let's say you are right and that they are driving transfer prices up. So what? It will affect your power on the market, but it will also affect everyone else in your country, too.

PS Maybe it is just my experience, but I have been beaten at auctions by Italian teams much more than any other country.