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106142.42 in reply to 106142.40
Date: 10/7/2009 9:32:25 AM
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ja ohne fieber schreibste nurrr müll, nja gute besserung...

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Date: 10/7/2009 10:11:18 AM
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aso, falls es irgendwen interessiert, die tie deal diskussion im nt forum ist wieder in vollem gange

From: Acajou

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Date: 10/7/2009 10:15:27 AM
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Und was schreiben die da so?

From: Lany

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Date: 10/7/2009 10:53:23 AM
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Das einige die gerne machen und andere sie doof finden... Ich bin befürworter ;)

From: intendis

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Date: 10/7/2009 1:07:05 PM
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mal dran gedacht, dass aca auch das forum sehen kann^^

From: Acajou

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Date: 10/7/2009 1:44:39 PM
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Ja, aber hier gibts zahlreiche Leser, die das nicht können. Daher fragte ich nach, damit du deine Einführung auch mal ausührst.

From: intendis

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Date: 10/7/2009 1:57:08 PM
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mhmmmm,

außer dich hats ja bisher keinen interessiert

aber ich finde den post vom portugiesen ganz cool, wie er sich rechtfertigt weil er mal einen tie deal gebrochen hat, die rede ist die ganze zeit eig nur, dass es ja nicht verboten ist usw und dann kommen die die meinen das man die nicht machen sollte mit ehre und so und dann gibts noch die, die welche machen und die dann brechen

ich denke man braucht tie deals einfach

Although I'm part of that "black list" of NT managers who didn't honor a TIE agreement, I think I need to say something here. First of all, for all the managers who are complaining, just remember, you are doing it because you actually have been involved in a TIE agreement, either you purposed, or someone purposed and you accepted. Either way, you were trying to get an advantage out of the situation, and you couldn't take it, and that's what pisses you of. And you know I'm right.

A mutual TIE agreement isn't more than just another strategic move. Would you all be here complaining if that agreement you made had been honored? No way. If that had happened, you would be all smiles and joy, celebrating a win and your bigger enthusiasm. Is that fair to the rest of the managers that didn't agreed any mutual tie? No, but you couldn't care less about it. Actually, you don't give a sh*t about it. But the moment someone have the guts to don't fulfil that unfair agreement, you all automaticaly get pissed and start complaining about everything. Don't be hypocrites, that isn't pretty at all.

Since everyone, at some point, agree to a deal like that, just let it be and live with the consequences. France coach purposed a deal to me, I had to accept, and then I didn't fulfil it. Another day I will taste the same "venom". It's a strategical game, and you have to be up for the challenges.

And that's not because I didn't fulfil that mutual tie against France that I'm not a man with word, and with honor. Someone tried to get advantage "from me", and I just answered with the weapons I had available. Think about it ;)

Best regards.

From: N4tê

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106142.49 in reply to 106142.48
Date: 10/7/2009 4:02:28 PM
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mich interesiert das durchaus, aber viel dazu sagen kann ich nunmal nicht;)

find die antwort aber irgendwie auch gut, klingt logisch, auch wenn ich mich derbe aufregen würde, wnen mir jemand so kommen würde...
aber er hat schon recht, wenn man einen deal angeboten bekommt, weiß der kontrahent ja automatisch, wie man das spiel angeht...

naja, zum glück kommen sie im ligaalltag nicht allzu häufig vor :)

From: intendis

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Date: 10/7/2009 4:05:42 PM
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From a BB point of view, it's actually pretty simple. We know that there are many ways of communicating with each other, not all of which are inside the game. Therefore, even if we really wanted to do everything possible to prevent the situation, we have no way of really knowing whether a TiE agreement was made, was cancelled by some later message, etc.

Therefore, there isn't any rule that we could actually enforce. So we're not going to write one which can't be enforced, but instead we just try to make sure everybody knows that we're not regulating anything and if somebody gives your their word about something, that's something between you and them, not the game administration.


der hier vom charles sollte noch interessant sein

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Date: 10/7/2009 6:19:38 PM
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also ich kann den portugiesen schon irgendwie nachvollziehen... sicher nicht nett, eine vereinbarung zu brechen, aber so wie ich ihn verstehe, sah er sich aus irgendeinem grund gezwungen, den deal einzugehen, und wehrte sich mit seinen möglichkeiten gegen diesen zwang - indem er den deal bricht. sieht nicht toll aus, ist aber imho eine folge dieses systems, und am ende handelt er so, wie er es für sein team als richtig erachtet - wofür er gewählt wurde.

bin auch der ansicht, dass tie deals eine option sein sollten, allerdings vielleicht mit etwas mehr vorsicht zu genießen sind - nicht immer und nicht um jeden preis. ein manager, der nicht oder nur selten auf deals eingeht, bewahrt sich in meinen augen auch ein stück freiheit und unberechenbarkeit.

From: Acajou

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Date: 10/8/2009 4:23:46 AM
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My opinion - mutual agreements are the part of strategy in our game. But no one is forced to suggest it or agree or disagree. It´s always question of situation of your team, to agree or not, because you have to do the best for your team. And if YOU don´t like mutual agreements, so don´t even answer any suggestion and play the shape you want.

Meiner Meinung nach einer der besten Beiträge, jüngst von einem Tschechen gepostet.

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