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225625.42 in reply to 225625.41
Date: 8/31/2012 10:18:06 AM
TrenseRI
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There are two issues wrong with this seasons repechage games:
A) Malaysia got in instead of Taiwan (check (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/world/standings.aspx?teamid=1...)). This was only brought to my attention 2 days ago (on Wednesday).

B) The games were initially played without the enthusiasm reset happening. They were rescheduled but the rescheduled matches had the option to change the lineups/tactics. This was a mistake on my part and will be corrected.

As for the solution to the problems, here's what we decided to do. We always do our best to catch mistakes when they happen. There are a ton of moving parts in BuzzerBeater, though, so we sometimes have to rely on the affected community members to point out some deeper mistakes. That's why we have the bugs forum, so people have a space to mention things they think were run incorrectly. In this case, not even the manager of the national team that was left out mentioned any issue until after the first games were run, and, unfortunately, that doesn't leave us with very many options for helping out with the situation. Had it been brought to our attention before the game, we would have been able to remedy it easily.

The fairest option available, in light of the situation, is the following:
1) Taiwan will be swapped into the rotation in place of Malaysia.
2) The game played incorrectly by Malaysia will be considered a forfeit by Taiwan. The same enthusiasm will be used for the game by the opponent. Taiwan will have enthusiasm as if it played this match "Take it Easy"
3) Taiwan will participate in the remainder of the repechage as intended


Since that handles the first issue, the second issue will be sorted as follows. Since we still have a backup of the lineups/tactics set for Monday, we are going to:
1) backup all relevant data
2) reset the enthusiasm of the U21 repechage teams back to 5
3) reset injuries and set game shape to respectable for all players from those teams
4) schedule and play a new set of games using the lineups/tactics from our backups from Monday
5) restore players game shape, injuries and teams enthusiasm to backed up values
6) update the repechage tables with new data

We will do this to all games except the Malaysia game, which will be set as a forfeit and Taiwan will take Malaysia's place in that match, future matches and the repechage overall.

The replays are probably going to happen on Sunday. We hope this will remedy the situation but are aware that there's no perfect solution.

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225625.43 in reply to 225625.42
Date: 8/31/2012 10:44:29 AM
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And with a forfeit, Taiwan will be eliminate of the repechage round (I think) ... so they'll begin consolation tournament with 2 defeats and 0 victory rather than 0-0 if they stay in the consolation tournament now ...

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225625.45 in reply to 225625.42
Date: 8/31/2012 12:27:21 PM
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What happens to the game between Singapore and Venezuela?, the first time Venezuela wins 120-113, the second time Venezuela lost 91-78, but it is unclear that according to statistics from the second game, Venezuela wins 120-113. a bug again? please be responsible and give a satisfactory answer to all of our community, it is angry with this decision.


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225625.47 in reply to 225625.42
Date: 8/31/2012 1:37:04 PM
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It is really interesting that why all the games can be played again but just except the Malaysia (Taiwan).
Why the game played incorrectly by Malaysia because of the system error will be considered as a forfeit by Taiwan?
I think it is really unfair to Taiwan U21.

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225625.48 in reply to 225625.43
Date: 8/31/2012 1:56:12 PM
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Its possible to go through with 1 loss.

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225625.49 in reply to 225625.47
Date: 8/31/2012 2:21:42 PM
TrenseRI
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As I explained already, we did know that there was an error with participants selection on time. Had you reported the problem before Monday, there would be a switch before the games were played. Since you reported it on Wednesday, you were in luck to get in after all.

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Date: 8/31/2012 3:23:18 PM
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Its possible to go through with 1 loss.

With one loss, Taiwan must win the two other games against Suomi and Nigeria... but Brasil or Suomi will also have 2 victory (winner of Brasil-Suomi)... And Taiwan will be behind this team because of their forfeit (if system is the same than regular season with our team)

With this error, Taiwan is penalized two times : no participation at the beginning of the consolation tourmanent and penalized if they do forfeit if they are reintroduced

Last edited by mickpiet at 8/31/2012 4:53:35 PM

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225625.51 in reply to 225625.42
Date: 8/31/2012 9:01:43 PM
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3) reset injuries and set game shape to respectable for all players from those teams
4) schedule and play a new set of games using the lineups/tactics from our backups from Monday
5) restore players game shape, injuries and teams enthusiasm to backed up values
We could expect our players on the U21 teams to be restored before Tuesday's games, right?

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Date: 8/31/2012 9:17:00 PM
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Since we still have a backup of the lineups/tactics set for Monday, we are going to:
1) backup all relevant data
2) reset the enthusiasm of the U21 repechage teams back to 5
3) reset injuries and set game shape to respectable for all players from those teams
4) schedule and play a new set of games using the lineups/tactics from our backups from Monday
5) restore players game shape, injuries and teams enthusiasm to backed up values
6) update the repechage tables with new data
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The replays are probably going to happen on Sunday. We hope this will remedy the situation but are aware that there's no perfect solution.


Well... I can only say that according to the conditions set out above is the solution less unfair. Hopefully a bug like this does not happen again in national team matches.

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