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26712.42 in reply to 26712.8
Date: 10/6/2008 6:53:03 PM
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It already happened 5-6 time before last saturday.. but i always believed it was my fault.. now i'm simply sure there is something wrong, probably a bug.

The problem?
In my last match I setted Gerardo Porzionato as rotation PM but he played in the starting 5.
I'm sure he was setted as rotation player since i saved the formation as default when i setted it last saturday.. and if i set the formation for tomorrow match.. i see Porzionato starting from the bench.

So i'm sure now that also the past times it wasn't my fault.

I don't remember now in which matches happened before but he always happened when i set Ambrogi as PM in the starting 5 and not other players.

I don't know if it happens because the difference between the 2 players is so huge or cause Porzionato is a national team player.. but it really needs to be fixed!

Tomorrow i'll try again with Porzionato starting from the bench, simply confirming the default formation.. let's see if it happens for the 6-7th time

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26712.43 in reply to 26712.42
Date: 10/7/2008 12:16:44 PM
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Tomorrow i'll try again with Porzionato starting from the bench, simply confirming the default formation.. let's see if it happens for the 6-7th time


It happened again....

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26712.44 in reply to 26712.43
Date: 10/7/2008 6:49:19 PM
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What orders do you use for your coach? Depth chart until 4th?

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
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26712.45 in reply to 26712.44
Date: 10/7/2008 10:47:11 PM
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well i don't know the exact english denomination but it's the one that give the coach the freedom to choose

Last edited by Dott_Divine at 10/7/2008 10:47:49 PM

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26712.46 in reply to 26712.45
Date: 10/8/2008 4:45:30 AM
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In this case, I think the coach have also the option of changing your starters when there is a big difference of quality, so in your case it seems to be the normal behavior (althoug it does not match with the rules). If you want to put one bad player as starter, you should always use "strictly follow my orders" (or something like this).

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26712.47 in reply to 26712.46
Date: 10/8/2008 7:51:34 PM
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In this case, I think the coach have also the option of changing your starters when there is a big difference of quality, so in your case it seems to be the normal behavior (althoug it does not match with the rules). If you want to put one bad player as starter, you should always use "strictly follow my orders" (or something like this).


this is probably the reason, but if this is the normal behavior.. it has to be changed :D

I give freedom to my coach during the match.. but I decide the starting players :D If he wants he can change the bad player the first time the match stops.. even after 2 secs, but the bad player has to start the match :)

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26712.48 in reply to 26712.20
Date: 10/9/2008 12:36:56 PM
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Sorry if I missed this one, but I didn't see any explanation to this report yet:
I've played "Strictly Follow Depth Chart" in order to get enough minutes for my trainees, BUT -- -- Game engine -- -- put on the floor players that weren't even in the depth chart(???).

There's a new report by a user in Suomi on this subject. This has happened to him before and now he's very sure it's not a mistake on his part.

Here're the details:

In today's scrimmage (8120467) two players who were not selected to the depth chart ((4214570) and (4214573)) played in total 7 minutes as SF. The coach was told to strictly follow the depth chart. No injuries or players thrown out of the game. In any case, there were two "legal picks" for the SF position, so a single injury or foul trouble shouldn't get the coach too confused to follow orders. Yet he plays not 2 or even 3, but 4 different players as SF.

The other team outscored this team by a large margin, so we feel this is simply a case of blowout. However, what puzzles us is whether the coach should be bringing in guys outside the depth chart when he's explicitly told to follow it strictly. Is this an undocumented feature or a bug? If it is the former, can we force the coach to not screw up training minutes by allocating no players outside the depth chart (in case no injuries etc.)?

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26712.49 in reply to 26712.48
Date: 10/9/2008 12:59:03 PM
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This is not a bug at all, but just the way several features combined.

As you point out, one of the reasons for that is blowout. Blowout means that no starter will play in the fourth quarter.

Second, the backup SF had 5 fouls, which is enough to qualify as being in foul trouble in the fourth quarter. Therefore, he was pulled, and the reserve at the position were subbed in.

After some time, the third reserve got tired, so he had to be replaced: but he couldn't be replaced by the starter (blowout), or the backup (foul trouble). In cases like this the coach usually pulls the most suitable player from the ones that are on a roster, but are unassigned.

The reason why this pick happens? Again, all starters are off limits because of the blowout, and all the backups are already on the court, so all that's left is unassigned players.

Hope this made some sense.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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26712.50 in reply to 26712.49
Date: 10/9/2008 2:32:43 PM
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This week´s trainning to the rubbish :(
I´ve played my scrimmage and what happened with my centers was more than strange. I set "Strictly Follow Depth Chart" and my starter center played 47 min (he his a SG and his stamina is level 7), and my backup center played 1 min (he´s usually the starter) :||||||.

I have been playing almost 3 seasons and this is the first time that a backup player plays less than 8-9 mins.

The result: My SG has played 98 min this week and the C 36 ----> Stupid Trainning :(

PS: i checked the lineup so I didn´t make any mistake.

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26712.51 in reply to 26712.49
Date: 10/10/2008 1:28:14 AM
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and the reserve at the position were subbed in.

After some time, the third reserve got tired, so he had to be replaced: but he couldn't be replaced by the starter (blowout), or the backup (foul trouble). In cases like this the coach usually pulls the most suitable player from the ones that are on a roster, but are unassigned.

Yep, this is what we pretty much assumed in BB Suomi forum.

In this particular case there was no reserve set (or either the starter or backup was set as reserve), so the third and fourth player were both unassigned players.

The question remains: How to tackle this? Is it enough to not have any unassigned players, so the coach would have to play the guy in foul trouble -- or will he then simply select a player from another position (and effectively not strictly follow the depth chart)?

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26712.52 in reply to 26712.51
Date: 10/10/2008 4:09:32 AM
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i've heard something like that happening before already but now the game engine totally messed up my game plan also. two of the players that i set in starting five did not start and they only got couples minutes of play time. I checked if i myself was wrong by using the same game plan in my other mach and then it was all ok. as i said it is not the first time it has happened. i wonder if someone could fix that problem

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