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Date: 2/19/2010 4:40:37 PM
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I don't want to be presumptuous,but for reaching the III division in Italy you have to train very well your players.If you train well your player,you can sell them at high price in the market.So when they have to change their training,they have the money to act in it.
The team who is sixth in my league sell his best players for 5 milion,but now he has difficulties in the championship,also if he buys some good substitutes
He could beat you in an auction,if he spend that money,but this not shows nothing.Indeed,this shows that some teams has advantages,look at the recent transfer list of some of the top teams of the various countries.When the top team in Italy had to buy a player,had previously to sell one of them.The top nigerian(only for an example)team have not to do them.This is only an example,but for the teams of medium division in competitive countries,maybe the situation is also worse than that

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Sure you, me and Johnny shop for boats in the same place and maybe sometimes Johnny has more money than us. But personally I do not mind if Johnny or anyone else has a bigger boat than me. I worked hard for my boat and am pretty proud of it. Plus I will never see him in my waters, so he is no threat to me in my ocean.

Well, we could go round and round with the same arguments over and over but I am done.

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because you already had a big arena ;)


are u kidding me? :P

From: Marot

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ok, my fault has been posting here. I have thought people could understand me, but Game Masters from Cyprus are too smart for me and my arguments. sorry I won't disturb you anymore ;)



Agree 100%. Nothing more to say.

Time to time Cyprus or Japan win the WorldChampionship of national teams.

From: Marot

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Most of the spanish managers, try to train their rookies, and lot of spanish managers have at least 1 player from the begining of the game in their team, while others(small country teams) most of them doesnt train their country team players, i've seen lot of rookies from small countryes for a cheap $ price ont the TL, but the best teams in small cuntrys prefer to pay for players of 40-50k salary and if you dont have a community behind that means their native players arent trained, or they are in foreign countrys which means its hard to buy them.

All those managers who complained that small countrys teams doesnt affect on the transfer list:

Efrain Bermes Comprado wanillo velez 26/02/2010 $ 7 995 000

Bought from an scotland team.

This is the best example. Spanish PG with OD 8 passing 20 being sold for 8M, who can afford that? Even if you train him, you are training a 100k player that his real value is maybe 3-4M?
Just an small country team.


And i remember Charles words''bunch of managers complaining from big countrys...'' Im sure that if im analising during 1month or 2 month the transfer market and the transfer market of the coachs i will see there is an inflation on the prices produced for the small country teams.
So dont tell us we play different roles of games since we are sharing a global situation.

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i could afford that to, and sorry i saw some spanisch div III or IV teens also trying to get such a silly transfers ;)

And i wouldn't train my rookies, and played with an almost foreign team when the change was released but i could easily react and now have a bunch of german players and they getting more something a small country team can do - because i personally still look for quality and if they fit into my team.

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(6470627), is from my 1st day on the game. (8238715) the only big man that i bought, for just 100k. Now IS/ID/RE are 14/13/13. So i am training my players. Actually i train only Cypriot players, and i dont even buying trainees...Almost every trainee that i have came from the draft...I am buying guards, and rarely i can find a good enough guard Cypriot for my team. When a couple was on the market, i didnt had enough money...

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I think this debate is silly as it is obvious that there are differences to the game being played by people from countries with different size user bases. One interesting thing I have noticed is that there are no Poles chiming in on this thread, although it is the third largest community in BB. What is their experience? I suppose it is all in how you define advantage. For those in big countries, it appears as though advantage is purely a function of an in-game financial level, while at least this small country manager takes a more holisitic view of the word advantage and sees a far greater advantage to being from a larger country where the competition is more exciting, there is a prospect of promoting and/or relegating, and there is a thriving and vibrant local forum in which to discuss the game and have fun.

I have one player from my original team (season 3) and I started this season with two.

I think that saying "most of the Spanish managers" try to train their rookies might be a generalization, if for no other reason than there are 6000+ Spanish managers. Can you speak for most of them?

Also, what do you consider smaller country? Less than 5000 users? Less than 1000? Less than 300? Because I would like to see that TL analysis rather than here you talk about it. I would be willing to help you gather data.

And in the last few days I have seen Holub go to a Czech team (600+ users) and Pashollari go to a German team (1200+ users), for more than I could afford (and, coincidentally at an hour that I would not be even close to awake).

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One major disadvantage to smaller countries that hasn't been discussed is the impossibility of getting national players through the draft or buying them. It's really easy for Spanish teams to buy whatever type of Spanish player they are looking for, often at a low price, in fact I've seen top Spanish teams whose rosters were nothing but Spanish players. For a team from Thailand or Ukraine to even get a couple of good starters is often impossible. If a top 18 year old prospect is put on the market in one of those countries he would go for millions as teams with deep pockets get in a bidding war, whereas an equal Spanish player might go for 500k instead.

I think that the speech about the national-foreign players is overvaluated when we make a comparison about advantages/disadvantages between great and small countries.
I have in my team 5 national players,3 drafted by my team,and I cash from the merchandisng 39-40k/week(higher than the average of my league)
If you think that this is the great advantage to be in a big country,forgetting all the other things we pointed out in this thread,sorry,but,I don't know where you can see the adavantage to find in the market national players.
Indeed,I have to think that a lot of great players in the market means only that I have to afford much more expenses in the players salaries to play against the managers of these players

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