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154960.429 in reply to 154960.427
Date: 8/26/2010 6:42:28 AM
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First I want to say that I think that the new draft system looks really good. It is obvious that people in same league will share their information and that this will be much more valuable than with old system. Would have been nice if this was not as easy it is right now. Because if weight, star rating and potential is fix value, i.e. same will be shown for two different users if player is fully scouted, it will be pretty easy to use this information to combine each others information and avoid that two users both scout a poor player.

As a small response to Naker in the suggestion thread. If you have done scouting combine I think that it might be wise to not use scouting combine. All depends on what your goal is though. I am drafting quite early but not first so won't be able to get best draftees as there are very active users that will draft ahead of me so I instead focus on finding best guards, both to potentially train them myself and for selling a high quality player to other team.

But I again want to give some credit to BB for what looks like a very good draft (and fun for active users) system. This system will be very beneficial for those that draft early. I would spend very little on the draft if I was a top team with this new system. That is for sure but I think that it makes sense also to be like that. Only importance now is to not make it too beneficial to opt for a good draft position. It should be costly to lose games on purpose namely.

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154960.430 in reply to 154960.429
Date: 8/26/2010 8:07:16 AM
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Does anyone have a good system yet if you only invested 10K in scouting but are going to finish high in the standings? A friend of mine is asking what to do. He will probably pick last or 2nd last in a fairly active league.

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154960.431 in reply to 154960.430
Date: 8/26/2010 8:41:16 AM
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Does anyone have a good system yet if you only invested 10K in scouting but are going to finish high in the standings? A friend of mine is asking what to do. He will probably pick 1st or 2nd in a fairly active league.


You are contradicted,but I assume you meant he picks last or second last..I'd suggest he does the group showing because the top listed players will get picked before his turn comes..I found 4 5 ball players in the group,and most probably I'll get one of them.

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154960.432 in reply to 154960.431
Date: 8/26/2010 8:59:13 AM
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I'd suggest he does the group showing because the top listed players will get picked before his turn comes..I found 4 5 ball players in the group,and most probably I'll get one of them.


Thanks. I did mean he will pick last or 2nd last (editted).

The problem with your theory: who is in your top list is sort of random. I mean, in general, the top players will be there. But everyone has a different scout error assigned to their list so it is more difficult to share information.

As for the person who one balled you: I assume you have a different idea?

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154960.433 in reply to 154960.432
Date: 8/26/2010 9:02:03 AM
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It is a rough estimate about their talent.Even if he finds a top talent among the top 10 players he will most likely miss on him,so it's better to try the group demonstration and find a gem there.

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154960.434 in reply to 154960.420
Date: 8/26/2010 9:20:43 AM
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Are you supposed to be allowed to do a scouting combine and a group demonstration, because I just did a combine and now both buttons are ghosted?

I am having the same problem. I did a scouting combine and now both buttons are ghosted. I still have 16 points left.


This should now be fixed.

Please let me know if it is not.

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154960.435 in reply to 154960.430
Date: 8/26/2010 12:37:41 PM
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I think with few dollars invested, and low pick in the draft the best thing to do is the combine, and the group demostration. This will give you a solid idea on 12-15 possible players to draft, and 12-15 or more that you absolutely don't want to draft. As you know, knowing who not to draft is almost as valuable as knowing who to draft.

With a group of 12-15 possible draft choices, you are sure to get at least 1 of those, if not 2. It won't be a guarantee that the guy you get is what you were hoping for, but I think this way gives you the best odds for landing a solid prospect.

If you do the combine, and then use the rest of your points to scout/interview specific players, you are limiting your pool of potential choices to 4-8. Additionally, you probably have a handful of 1 or 2 ball prospects that will prove to be 4 or 5 ball prospects once the group demonstration is completed.

So if it were me, I would rather have the initial assessment/combine/and group demonstration to be able to have a good idea on the majority of the list, rather than targeting a few specific guys that may show good results or not, and then the few good ones may be gone by the time you pick anyway. Seems to me that would be a horrible waste of scouting resources to invest into 3-4 specific prospects only to have them drafted before you even make your pick, and then have nothing but blind picks for the other 40-44 prospects.

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154960.436 in reply to 154960.435
Date: 8/26/2010 12:41:37 PM
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Thanks. Much appreciated.

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154960.437 in reply to 154960.436
Date: 8/26/2010 2:46:46 PM
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I'm a little confused. Isn't the starting ratings (street cred ratings from the scouts before any actual scouting) for the 48 players all random for each team? As in many players have said there are quite a few discrepancies between the players actual ratings and their street ratings from your scouts.

Which means each team in the league gets a different top set and bottom set right (randomise starting street cred set)?

So effectively, if you're drafting from your bottom set of players, they might actually be on the top set of another teams draft list. So your chances of getting them as your draft pick if you pick last may still be low because they were in the top few ratings for another team.

I'm totally not understanding how demo helps you if you pick towards the end if this is the case.

Am I making any sense at all? Lol...

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Date: 8/26/2010 2:52:52 PM
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I'm totally not understanding how demo helps you if you pick towards the end if this is the case.

Am I making any sense at all? Lol...


This was my question, too. But I guess usually the top players should appear at the top. I dunno, can you come up with a better strategy? I am still not 100% convinced that the group demonstration is the right path. I can see the combine being helpful, but am still not sure.

Because: if you do the combine and the demo you only have 8 points left at the end of the season. So not really much hope of scouting anyone twice.

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154960.439 in reply to 154960.438
Date: 8/26/2010 2:57:54 PM
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Well what I did was combine + demo. Then some individual scouting. Perhaps I was unlucky but I didn't quite have enough points to check out some potential players. So I'm investing 40k a week till the end of the season to make up for it.

If I had another shot, I'd go with combine alone tbh.

I only realised that there wasn't a real point doing demo quite a few of the lower ranked players were 19.

I'd have gone combine -> individual scout all 18 year olds 190 cm and below -> interview

even then I'm not sure if i'd have enough points.... lol...

edit: sry.. I read your post... and didn't quite understand what you were asking.. so kinda repeated it :S but upon rereading, realised we were asking the same questoin

Last edited by Simply Vince at 8/26/2010 3:03:42 PM

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