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From: rwystyrk

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189547.44 in reply to 189547.43
Date: 7/20/2011 1:18:13 AM
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You missed the point with Diaw. Even if player is not on top level, he can be equal for each position, but 2nd or 3rd best in squad for each of them, so he can spent just few minutes on court.

From: docend24

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Date: 7/20/2011 10:03:45 AM
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Diaw has the skills, he doesn't have the desire (that can't and shouldn't be simulated in BB btw)

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189547.48 in reply to 189547.41
Date: 7/21/2011 6:58:26 AM
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PG/C - (10859831)
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And his position is suggested PG when he's 7'0'' I'm pretty sure there are a few other players like him.
And Arvydas Sabonis in his early years (before gitting injured and slower) was quite a good PG/C. Later in his career he was a center who passed better than most of the PGs..

Last edited by Phantum at 7/21/2011 7:02:37 AM

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189547.49 in reply to 189547.48
Date: 7/21/2011 7:19:24 AM
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Arvydas didn't injured that early, he played PG in youth squad as professional he always was an center with great court vision and the tools to use i

(edit: Chamberlain, played PG at the globetrotters so he wasn't that bad either in that direction)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/21/2011 7:20:40 AM

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189547.50 in reply to 189547.49
Date: 7/21/2011 8:04:50 AM
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He was overgrown PG with a skillset of both PG and C - great handler, passer, decent rebounder with a shot range of a guard. He had a skillset but later on was unable to use it because of his body. So in the skills aspect he was a PG with low OD and a C..

And well he had a lot of injuries..

Last edited by Phantum at 7/21/2011 8:06:56 AM

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189547.51 in reply to 189547.41
Date: 7/21/2011 8:08:20 AM
New York Chunks
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I just don't get what adding complexity to the position label for players adds. Once you know what the skills are, does the position label really matter? I mean, if a SG can also play SF, even though his skill set says he's most effective as a SG, who cares what his label is? I play players out of their "natural position" all the time and I don't need a label to tell I can. The skills are more important than the label, a label that's too complicated could add more confusion than clarity. My two cents.

Don't ask what sort of Chunks they are, you probably don't want to know. Blowing Chunks since Season 4!
From: chihorn

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189547.53 in reply to 189547.52
Date: 7/21/2011 10:27:33 AM
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So when you scout, do you search by position or by skill? Personally, I find searching by position very inefficient without including skill requirement criteria since I know I'm either going to be rejecting players without certain minimum skills or, relevant to the issue at hand, I am looking for a player with versatility to play more than one position. Therefore, having players with more than one stated position is totally unnecessary. In fact, I rarely even search for players by position at all.

I think there are enough debates on how well the system derives the labels that we already have. Adding complexity probably won't help matters.

Don't ask what sort of Chunks they are, you probably don't want to know. Blowing Chunks since Season 4!
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