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266312.43 in reply to 266312.40
Date: 2/8/2015 3:34:11 PM
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Yeah, I wasn't happy when I saw my B3 schedule. It really sucked the fun out of my first shot at B3 competition to get a schedule like that. Good luck to Delta 9! It would be nice to see one of the USA teams have a good showing.

From: Hoosier

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266312.44 in reply to 266312.42
Date: 2/10/2015 4:33:43 AM
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I 100% agree that tanking sucks. But I appreciate the many different sentiments expressed this debate. For me it was simple, my D2 was much easier than it should have been. I feel as though I was on a plan to be here in another 2 or 3 seasons but I saw an opening last season. So I sold off some trainees, bought some older players that were cheaper to help me advance and here I am. I played the crazy market to start the year, sold my roster for 7 million that I bought for far less than that. I can sit here and bank my 350 a week plus cup and fix some of the financial problems I was experiencing. Had I been in a harder D2 I wouldn't have been able to promote so cheaply so this money grab wouldn't have been as profitable. But if an advantage presents its self, sometimes you gotta go for it.

I have kicked around staying up but as I sit here with lots of cash, that honestly I can't believe my competitive side hasn't kicked in and spent yet, but that will be determined by when players start to return to a somewhat normal value. I'm not seeing many deals out there yet.

I am open to whatever path the market takes me on. Buying D1 guys to potentially fighting to stay up or buying streamlined D2 players that will give me major bang for my salary buck to fight off the demotion penalty with as light of salary as possible while still winning some games.

Last edited by Hoosier at 2/10/2015 4:37:19 AM

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266312.45 in reply to 266312.44
Date: 2/10/2015 6:11:02 AM
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my own experience was shaped by my initial season or two in DII. getting out of DIII had been a struggle, and the team i had in DII, i soon realized, had no future in DII -- the players were all of a late-prime age, and i was never going to generate the income necessary to save money to replace them and stay at that level -- demotion was only a matter of time. still one of the toughest decisions i made in this game, i jettisoned the team at the beginning of a season, spent a season training and losing, demoted, and barely hung on in DIII until my youngsters got their feet on the ground.

a couple of lessons i learned:
-- the importance of constructing a team that will survive the next level. this is tricky, for not only is it necessary to win at the lower level, but i wanted the core of that team to be good enough to survive at the next level.
-- this is complicated by the vicious competition at the lower level. this may be too self-revealing, but i am guided by not losing rather than winning absolutely. i have a real aversion to relegation, and the idea of dropping down and then going through that process of promotion (with all the randomness involved as well as teams spending wildly the last three weeks of the season) -- no thanks.
-- my view of "winning" is skewed -- i think the amount of luck involved is important, and i have often seen seasons where the best team did not advance. or, in my case, that a lesser team did indeed win.

so, my approach to this game is building a franchise that lasts, that does not achieve and flame out -- my model is san antonio, and my goal is not the NBBA championship, but rather making that list magiker has of teams winning 100 games at this level. eventually this game will catch up to me, but i think for me the challenge is fighting all those forces trying to tear down my team.

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266312.46 in reply to 266312.32
Date: 2/10/2015 3:30:22 PM
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I've never had anything other than a level 1 Basic trainer since I began promoting from D5. When I ran my original team I did not see as good of a return as I would have liked purchasing a Level 5/6 trainer and spending countless amount of points on the draft. As many of you know more than most drafts are big busts even if you have a top 5 selection. You can easily spend $260k-$520k just on draft points in one season plus a high level trainer is easily another cool million. I chose to be a cheap arse and just buy and sell players as I promoted from one level to the next.

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266312.47 in reply to 266312.36
Date: 2/11/2015 9:10:23 AM
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I think he was losing at least that.

From: AZ

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266312.48 in reply to 266312.46
Date: 2/11/2015 11:42:23 AM
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As many of you know more than most drafts are big busts even if you have a top 5 selection. You can easily spend $260k-$520k just on draft points in one season


In the past I'd agree with you completely. But the new changes that let you see actual skill levels as well as 19 year olds getting Strong instead of Respectable skills, means it's a bit more viable.

For my last draft, I had a bit of a gamble (that failed). Great trainee, height was around what I wanted, but only 4 ball potential. I believe that's supposed to be a 50/50 shot between Perennial All-Star and Superstar. He was the former. If he was actually a Superstar, he'd be a perfect pick. The next version of my team needs trainees with specific skill/height combos. So this weeds out all of the guys who don't fit the criteria. After that it's just hoping they're Superstar minimum.

So if you're just looking for generic high potential youngsters, I don't advise spending points on draft picks. If you're doing something funky with your training and builds, then it's more likely to be worth it.

From: Dmitri

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266312.49 in reply to 266312.43
Date: 2/11/2015 6:55:50 PM
Delta 9
II.4
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Second Team:
Euphoria Seekers
B3: Ya, so far, my schedule is like having an extra scrimmage each week ... that pays. I'd just like to say that B3 should not pay, as it just rewards the really, really good teams (who don't need $$). I'd like to see it a money-less league, for bragging rights & fun only. That said, Delta 9 is enjoying the extra cash: maybe we can stay a really, really good team for a bit longer ...

From: Jason

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266312.50 in reply to 266312.49
Date: 2/11/2015 7:09:50 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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B3:, really good teams (who don't need $$). ..


Sounds like a good problem to have!! If you feel that you don't need any extra money, let me give you the account number for the Arizona Desert Storm...we can always use more $$!!!

From: Dmitri

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266312.51 in reply to 266312.50
Date: 2/11/2015 8:01:43 PM
Delta 9
II.4
Overall Posts Rated:
6464
Second Team:
Euphoria Seekers
Jason,
It was more of a democratic statement, than a team-economic one. Delta 9 is always short on cash, as I'm sure you are. I would just like to see less favoritism to established teams ...

From: Jason

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266312.52 in reply to 266312.51
Date: 2/11/2015 8:17:02 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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Jason,
It was more of a democratic statement, than a team-economic one. Delta 9 is always short on cash, as I'm sure you are. I would just like to see less favoritism to established teams ...


LOL, I thought the obviousness of the sarcasm in my response was fairly obvious....especially given that our teams do not have account numbers, and transferring money in BB is against the rules...but I'll try to be more obvious next time! lol

That said, I am not sure if I totally agree....teams in the top leagues do not receive promotion money or bonus money for winning their leagues....obviously the top league teams have a chance to go deeper in the cup, but that affects so few of the top teams anyway. The entire economy of BB is designed to drain your account, not grow your account...unless of course, you play in a smaller country and can win with less.

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