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Date: 9/14/2007 1:04:13 PM
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I don't think stamina has to do with playing time.

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Date: 9/14/2007 5:41:47 PM
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nice knowing

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Date: 9/28/2007 8:34:16 PM
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Team training like Free Throws and Stamina don't require time on the court

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Date: 9/28/2007 8:48:55 PM
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It seems training has slowed down recently. I track training pretty well and it's taken some players at least 2 weeks longer (under the exact same training conditions) then it took earlier in the season.

Inside scoring, with 5 trainees getting the full 48 minutes and a 10 traineres was taking about 3-4 weeks (even for players up to 22), now i'm 5 weeks in for 3 different players and they haven't popped yet.

Edited 9/28/2007 8:56:34 PM by brianjames

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Date: 9/28/2007 10:13:26 PM
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Anyone else care to confirm this? I wonder if the BBs slowed down training on purpose?

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Date: 9/28/2007 11:55:23 PM
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Here's the status of the 5 trainees:

2 @ proficient for 5 weeks
2 @ average, one for 4 weeks / one for 6 weeks (some of those weeks with less then 48 mins though)
1 @ proficient, just popped from strong after 4 weeks

Now that I look a tracking I was doing for inside training, it's possible that the last rounds of pops included training from the first season (i was doing rebounding most this season), and I didn't track the first season very well. Plus I know they had to adjust training at one point in the first season when players were popping almost every week.

For reboudning, I'm 99% sure about the 3-4 week per pop w/ 5 trainees, 48+ mins played, and 10-trainer.

Edited 9/29/2007 12:00:18 AM by brianjames

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Date: 9/29/2007 6:39:26 AM
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training penalty if skill sets are too out of balance


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Date: 9/29/2007 12:03:30 PM
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what does "skill sets" and "out of balance" mean?

if he is a C the skill sets would be inside scoring|+ rebound+ inside def+ block shot?

and out of balance: big difference between these skills or training in a skill that the player is not suited for? (ex: rebounding for a 1m80 player)

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Date: 9/29/2007 2:19:22 PM
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sets of complementary skills make training go faster

if you have an 18 yo with high level of skills in a certain area (ie. inside skills like you mentioned) then training in those skills is faster than if you tried to train outside skills.

Things like handling and driving are probably more general complementary skills for inside and outside which improve players lack of Turn Overs and improve ability to attempt shots.

The two main groups are:
Outside Skills:
Jump Shot + Jump Range + Outside Defence + Passing

Inside Skills:
Inside Shot + Inside Defence + Rebounding + Shot Blocking

Training does take into account height as well. Short players are better at training in outside skills and tall players in inside skills.

Big differences in skills are probably not a factor but if a player has very low skill level in more than two of the skills in the desired area for the player to be training in then it would be considered a very bad player to play in that area.

Edited 9/29/2007 2:25:19 PM by JudgeNik

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