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The rate of decline is declining faster than the actual user numbers. This would suggest that sooner or later we will stop losing users and reach a balance, probably pretty soon, especially if we find a way to genuinely start attracting people and/or brining people back.

How would that be a surprise? the problem is that the game wont grow again.

... the game wont grow again...

... until it does.

I agree with you. I think a good mark that we will never see BB drop below is 18-19k. As to if it drops to that point, my hope is no, but it could. The decline of the decline is clearly taking place and at some point it will level out and then stay around there or start growing again in my opinion. Once again, I feel like a well worked on app for BB is what will lead to more income and users to BB personally, so I expect a gradual decline to 18-19k until BB creates that app and it flips in reverse hopefully. If the user number drops below 20k is when people will really start flipping s*** though, so that may be interesting if it gets to that point. I will be optimistic though, and hope it does not drop much more from the 23kish users we have now.

The game don't need to grow, it needs to have enough users/income that BBs don't quit and find a different job.

The second team feature made enough money to get the App done - where is it?

You act as if making an app for a game of this stature is easy. I can tell you right now, that it is not. It's not as simple as, "now they have more money, they should have made an app by now".

Coming from BB-Marin himself, this is some of what he had to say about a BB app:

"We know there are lots of people which offered to help us with the development of BB for free and this would be a chance to prove that they meant business. They would get some kind of reward, surely, we're not robots

That's why we are considering outsourcing the app to the community and interested devs as a semi open source thing but the greatest obstacle, as has already been said, was code and data access. We don't want developers to be able to gain ingame advantage due to their work on the app.

The only possible solution I thought of so far would be a tight cooperation between the devs and us, where we'd need to build a platform which would give the devs the needed data for their work without giving too much away. It would be a slow and painful process but could be basically essential for the survival of the game in the long run.

I'm open to suggestions (if you don't mind me hijacking this thread) on how to do this, especially from people who have information on how this is kind of thing is usually done. I can also make this more official once we get the general idea on how to do this."

If you want to read the whole thread or some other things that Marin had to say about it you can read it here:
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...)

Last edited by E.B.W. at 12/13/2014 12:34:57 PM

That was 6 months ago and we were asking for the app since 2012. Real talk

Everything is a process. A large addition to BB such as an app is not created over night. It takes a long time. As you stated, it has been brought up a lot since 2012, but I feel like it has not been well thought out/looked into with depth until the beginning of this year to be honest. With that being said, complaining about how an app has not been created yet does speed along the process. If you are concerned about the app being made sooner than later, make suggestions, get people together to talk about it, message Marin with some ideas, do something beneficial. I know it is a lot easier to ask for an app to be made and expect one to be created right away, and I too want an app sooner than later, but it is unfair to the BBs to say:

"The second team feature made enough money to get the App done - where is it?"

I don't think what he said was out of line. This game is made to make money as well. So he has a very good valid point.


He is a customer same as you and me an everyone else. why insult him or pick a part his concern?? He want more results than you for BB, because you seem so content with BB no new feature change needed.

Respect his opinion, even if you don't respect the man who speak it.

I think BB need to get with the times. 40$ for online only game is not attractive lower the price points. Have some kind of discount sales, black Friday half price supporter . Christmas is coming up why not half price 1 yrs supporters in a short discount sale?

2 years of supporter 40$ on limted sale. Its very attractive. I'm be honest with I dont see any reason to open my wallet for BB. I like the game a lot but at I dont see a real reason to open my wallet.? Show me some saving?

That not gloom and doom or being negative, BB is a business created on real money they need to try act like a business, and have sales. Offer discounts directly Not join this other unknown web site an you get% off Bb supporters. NO !!>I don't care about that other site.

BB need show some strength in marketing. Yes it hard but you need to show saving in order to get people excited in your product. If it about money then people have no problem with it, look at second team sales. A lot would buy supporters it was offered for 10-20$ directly trust me. A lot would be stacking on that offer. Money is needed for BB, more better things for BB in fixes. An bigger paying community


But before I pay fix the dang tactics, if a sale is the way to get that done then get to having one. :)

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/13/2014 6:18:33 PM

You missed my point by a long mile.

Its not the point sales are being make everyday its the point 40$ is not attractive everyday for everyone.. some people have budgets and you have reach their budgets. Its not about BB being free. its about making those free supporter one day.. bringing that free player to supporter revenue thus keep them staying coming back.

Keep players renewing/ playing, in small creating profits.?


Are You against making a profits? are you versus BB having discounts sales. Are you versus BB turning free players to supporters?? If not, what's the point of your rebuttal?? Like it or not BB is a business venture for revenue,what goes on in BB does not happens for free. Its a free game but its not free to operate// let me make that part clear.

I can play for free all day long at Bb expense but if bb is smart they should try to get me to support some how.( ring bells) Sale/discount open people wallets, it gets people to talking to other to join during in those times , its get people to joining. It get people to supporting, spreading the word people like value an saving . A managers may not have 40$ at the time or all the time ,but they may have 20$ and BB has a discount sale,he can support.( rings bell)

By them doing that things get fixed much quicker( making revenue). Understand the concept.. Just like when they had 50K users, they got things fixed . remember r&g. motion etc etc.?? They fix those things when the money was rolling in more faster> That my point?

Your problem with that is what? If want I pay them/support them and they create fixes.. why the issues.. I'll play for free if it broken.. Again where are my saving?

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/13/2014 10:40:28 PM